The link was valid at the time it was posted... you clearly don't spend enough time here

The way MS is coming across is very arrogant and their attitude is appalling.

The recent piece when they said about designing windows was like ordering a billion pizzas was hilarious. So order everybody a plain cheese base one and don't put olives or anchovies on my wife said.

Also there seems to be an extremely aggressive win 8 fan base on the internet which isn't helping matters.

When there are posts saying "if you don't like Win 8 then you are stupid." really doesn't help and it is all over the place. The pro win 8 crowd do need to take stock and stop alienating other windows users.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

So for mice, 1st was Telefunken TR-440, 2nd was Xerox Star and 3rd was Apple Lisa. I guess 4th was Apple Mac

In terms of use, not commercialisation, I think the 4th was Microsoft- Windows came out about 18 months or so after the Lisa (MS playing catch-up again ), though I'm not sure about the Mac of those days.

and it suddenly seems rather anachronistic that 30 years later we're still using them.

Why? We're still using keyboards, and likely to be for many years yet- they've been around a hell of a lot longer than mice!

agreed, I have read tons of that rubbish.

The sad thing is, its a problem across many modern developers.

eg. on firefox features often appear because a dev wants it, and if a user doesnt like it then its a case of the user been behind the times, uneducated or just stupid. I see this issue across 100s of apps, developers driving features, not their users. then the media jumps on it calling everything new innotive and everything old obselete.

Microsoft are also been childish refusing to do a SP2 for windows 7. Another thing I noticed on modern developers, and microsoft are moving in that direction with the SP2 decision is that they tend to say things like bugs cant be fixed in existing version instead upgrade to the latest version.

In reply to a post by undecidedadrian:

The way MS is coming across is very arrogant and their attitude is appalling.

Something else they've learned from Apple

(And to forestall comment- I'm a Mac user, though not an Apple fanboy)

"Apple Inc.'s then-chairman Steve Jobs introduced the first Macintosh on January 24, 1984"
"The first independent version of Microsoft Windows, version 1.0, released on 20 November 1985"

In reply to a post by billford:

We're still using keyboards, and likely to be for many years yet- they've been around a hell of a lot longer than mice!

According to Windows 8, we've abandoned mice in favour of the keyboard.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

"Apple Inc.'s then-chairman Steve Jobs introduced the first Macintosh on January 24, 1984"
"The first independent version of Microsoft Windows, version 1.0, released on 20 November 1985"

I missed that, cheers.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

According to Windows 8, we've abandoned mice in favour of the keyboard.

Can't really comment on that, but it seems unlikely. AIUI, Win8 is aimed for ease of use on tablets etc, which don't have keyboards.

Taking my iPhone as an example, there's no mouse but a keyboard appears when required.