You can see the merits of trusted computing in the enterprise (perhaps), for the consumer, it can bog off.

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I just hope that Microsoft realises that charging for upgrades wouldn't be a good idea.

According to BBC's Click, it will only be available via MS's App Store, not via Software Update.

I appreciate that this isn't necessarily a completely reliable source, nor does it automatically mean that you'll have to pay for it, but I assume it has implications for the "trusted computing" debate?

FWIW, Apple have gone down the same route with OS X updates.

That is interesting because if true would create an issue in the enterprise. Personally I run Windows 8 without a Microsoft Account -- I would be a bit disappointed (and also surprised) if I was forced to create a windows live account to get the update via the store... If the update is advertised thru the store but can be downloaded/installed by other means then I don't mind - I'd have thought it would have been done through Windows Update imho - firstly it is a large download and Windows Update can use technologies like BITS and other consistency checking mechanisms, also the Windows Update infrastructure is far more robust...

That post rambled a bit but you get the idea.

Edited by Pipexer (Sun 12-May-13 11:27:32)

I can see people moving onto Linux soon...

"Soon" might be a bit optimistic

But I, for one, haven't ruled it out if Apple go too far along the control freak route (or put too much emphasis on mobile devices!), but I like their kit and (most of) the software for it.

Maybe one more hardware update in a few years, then use this current machine to investigate Linux... I assume you can get versions that run on Intel Macs?

In reply to a post by billford:

In reply to a post by MrTAToad2:

I just hope that Microsoft realises that charging for upgrades wouldn't be a good idea.

According to BBC's Click, it will only be available via MS's App Store, not via Software Update.

I appreciate that this isn't necessarily a completely reliable source, nor does it automatically mean that you'll have to pay for it, but I assume it has implications for the "trusted computing" debate?

FWIW, Apple have gone down the same route with OS X updates.

Depends.

If its SP1. Probably free. Sounds like to me it is SP1 so should be free.

If its like windows 95 OSR2, then it will replace whats on the shelves in shops but existing users would have to obtain the new media, existing keys should work on it.

Can microsoft innovate at all? they just seem to copy apple an aweful lot.

an Intel mac is essentially a pc mobo they take standard linux distros and macbooks are popular as developer laptops. Might need to boot in legacy BIOS mode.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro

Thanks Phil. I've bookmarked that site in case Apple's "we know what's best for you" ever gets severely up my nose

In reply to a post by MrTAToad2:

I can see people moving onto Linux soon...

It is interesting our local PC repair shop has now got a small industrial unit and has become a laptop OEM with their own branded laptops and will do custom orders including what OS.

Apparently they are installing mostly win7 followed by linux and hardly any win8.

My wife has said her next laptop will either have win 7 on it or she will bite the bullet and go over to Linux. She refuses to even consider win 8.

The local PC repair shop has assured her they have enough win 7 keys to last for a very long time.

As for me I have investigated linux and have found that I can get drivers and programs to replicate my windows useage apart from one specialist program and the games.

So I am now confident a win 7/ linux dual boot may be possible without too much of a wrench.

Edited by deleted (Mon 13-May-13 11:05:35)

In reply to a post by MrTAToad2:

I can see people moving onto Linux soon...

No idea what happened to my post, maybe I did not click on post

anyway, I am trying to go Linux, I got Mint on my laptop, but it is not used that often, when I do it is only from browsing and typing letters.

This desktop is a bit more of a pain, lack of software. i am also trying to find a decent Distro, I tried open suse yesterday, but it did nto like my network, came up with something about it being incompatible in this version. so I am now downloading Debian , if that is not want I want, then I will try Mint again but with the Mate Ui not the Cinnamon one.


i don't like Gnome as it stands now and the Ubuntu UI is worse than Metro if that is possible.