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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 19-Oct-21 22:55:21
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I found a problem with the default install of 11. If you use the default Nvidia drivers supplied it writes about 2TB to disk a day. Subsequently my Corsair NVME MP510 remaining life was rapidly decreasing as so much was being written to disk from the driver. Solution was upgrade the Display Driver from Nvidia site and problem solved, must have been some sort of leak.

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Standard User BB4Tickton
(experienced) Wed 20-Oct-21 10:58:53
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I found a problem with the default install of 11. If you use the default Nvidia drivers supplied it writes about 2TB to disk a day. Subsequently my Corsair NVME MP510 remaining life was rapidly decreasing as so much was being written to disk from the driver. Solution was upgrade the Display Driver from Nvidia site and problem solved, must have been some sort of leak.


That is a strange one, but glad you found the fix. I've also had issues with Nvidia drivers before and just recently with v496.13 which totally messes with my Milestone Xprotect CCTV system.
Standard User GonePostal
(experienced) Tue 26-Oct-21 14:58:43
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. . . I like the look of it, but so much missing from the taskbar . .


It took me 5 hours with Windows 11 before I gave up and reverted to Windows 10. The things that give me problems are basically cosmetic and not problems with the actual OS but are the sort of things that aggravate. For example, there is no longer a clickable option to change the taskbar icon size (and thus the amount of real estate grabbed by the taskbar). This can be fudged using a Registry tweak but selecting a smaller icon size for the taskbar leaves the notification area at the right hand end with the icons misaligned at the bottom of the task bar to the extent that some of the icons only show their top half. This includes the clock so that it is possible to read the time but the date is almost all off-screen. It is also impossible to show the seconds in the clock, only the hours and minutes. There was a Registry tweak in W10 to force the display of seconds but this is now deprecated. The deprecation also means that third party clocks like T-ClockEx will no longer work. That is not Microsoft's problem as they cannot be responsible for third-party software but it just makes the user-interface less friendly.

No idea why that functionality was removed but it means that I will be stopping in my comfort zone with W10 until the functionality is restored or W10 reaches end of life.


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Standard User pluralist
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 26-Oct-21 16:29:20
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In reply to a post by TinyMongomery:
It seems there are performance problems with Windows 11 on newer Ryzen processors, so I'll be holding off on this upgrade for the time being.

https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4038366/windows-red...
It is on older ones as well by all accounts, I saw a post from someone who have the same CPU as me, Ryzen7 1700, and they have noticed the difference. I have not, I have even done a test render in Hitfilm and it was fine.
It is the chipset by all accounts not the CPU, so it will be a patch for Windows.
AMD and Windows patches needed according to this site. With the general release Windows one due today?

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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Oct-21 16:47:02
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I can't be bothered to install the x86-64 version using MacOS / Parallels as a VM on my existing Intel MacBook. My other intel boxes will keep running W10 native for a good while yet.

When the new MacBook Pro M1 tin arrives in a few weeks, plan to install the insider preview of W11 for ARM and give it a spin under Parallels 17. Should have more than enough horsepower to get it up a decent clip. Will be quite interesting to see what it performs like as a VM

If its utterly terrible I'll revert to W10 for ARM.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Wed 27-Oct-21 20:32:04
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It took me 5 hours with Windows 11 before I gave up and reverted to Windows 10. The things that give me problems are basically cosmetic and not problems with the actual OS but are the sort of things that aggravate. For example, there is no longer a clickable option to change the taskbar icon size (and thus the amount of real estate grabbed by the taskbar). This can be fudged using a Registry tweak but selecting a smaller icon size for the taskbar leaves the notification area at the right hand end with the icons misaligned at the bottom of the task bar to the extent that some of the icons only show their top half. This includes the clock so that it is possible to read the time but the date is almost all off-screen. It is also impossible to show the seconds in the clock, only the hours and minutes. There was a Registry tweak in W10 to force the display of seconds but this is now deprecated. The deprecation also means that third party clocks like T-ClockEx will no longer work. That is not Microsoft's problem as they cannot be responsible for third-party software but it just makes the user-interface less friendly.

No idea why that functionality was removed but it means that I will be stopping in my comfort zone with W10 until the functionality is restored or W10 reaches end of life.


yep, agree with all you said, I have a bit of software called Xmeters and it sticks a display of my ram, hard drives use, network and CPU, onto the taskbar, but it will not work on Windows 11 as Windows 11 don't allow anything to be stuck onto the taskbar.

I am not a fan of the context menus either, I really thought Ms would have fixed them before launch, they have not.

I will be going back to Ten I think at some point. I just wanted to be nosy and also MS said that they did not want me running windows 11 on my machine, umm, don't try to tell me what I should not do. smile

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Wed 27-Oct-21 20:33:28
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AMD and Windows patches needed according to this site. With the general release Windows one due today?



I have installed them, not that I have noticed any difference, but the patches allows balance across the cores.

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Wed 27-Oct-21 20:34:51
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I can't be bothered to install the x86-64 version using MacOS / Parallels as a VM on my existing Intel MacBook. My other intel boxes will keep running W10 native for a good while yet.

When the new MacBook Pro M1 tin arrives in a few weeks, plan to install the insider preview of W11 for ARM and give it a spin under Parallels 17. Should have more than enough horsepower to get it up a decent clip. Will be quite interesting to see what it performs like as a VM

If its utterly terrible I'll revert to W10 for ARM.


If I get a Mac, I will certainly not be running Windows on it.
I almost got one a couple of weeks ago, but I will wait and see what Apple does with the new chip.
I do need a keyboard that will work with bother machines.

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 27-Oct-21 22:06:40
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If I get a Mac, I will certainly not be running Windows on it.
I almost got one a couple of weeks ago, but I will wait and see what Apple does with the new chip.

I wouldn't buy an old Intel Mac now, get a second hand / 1 year old M1 laptop or Mac Mini. The speed Apple appears to be dropping support in macOS 12 Monterey for Intel based Macs will make some of the Xeon Mac Pro purchasers only 3 years ago very cross I suspect.

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 28-Oct-21 10:15:12
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I wouldn't buy an old Intel Mac now, get a second hand / 1 year old M1 laptop or Mac Mini. The speed Apple appears to be dropping support in macOS 12 Monterey for Intel based Macs will make some of the Xeon Mac Pro purchasers only 3 years ago very cross I suspect.


No it will not be an Intel machine, I tend to stay away from Intel, but i did come close to getting one before I built this machine I have now, due to AMD taking so long to bring out the Ryzen.
One of the reason I am looking at the Mac is because of the change of processor.
I never thought about second hand, but would I really save that much money due to the machine being so new? We know how Macs hold on to their value.

My mac owning friend is looking at a Mac mini, not sure why as she has enough Macs to start a shop with smile

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