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Admittedly I’m not up to speed on the latest and greatest with Qualcomm’s plans for their ARM processor line, but Apple has had a huge head start and now are in the first third of their processor “decade” on their own desktop class silicon, so they continue to plough in huge resources.

I'm following this on The Register and other sites. Apple "bought in" to get where they are, and a significant number of people left after 2 years formed their own company, and QCom bought that late last year, so maybe these people can recreate some of the good work they did for Apple in terms of performance improvements.

Will be interesting to see how things pan out when Apple transition away from Qualcomm on their wireless chips and move to their own. Another play that has been under way for several years now.

From last rumours that is taking a lot longer, Apple bought the Intel modem business for $1bn I believe, but Intel hadn't managed to get to 5G NR (had some very good 4G/LTE chips), and last rumour is that is still the big issue for that team. Qualcomm's shareholder reports showed they were expecting the loss of a large customer in 2023, but that has been pushed back.... the assumption is this is apple.

Apple "bought in" to get where they are, and a significant number of people left after 2 years formed their own company, and QCom bought that late last year, so maybe these people can recreate some of the good work they did for Apple in terms of performance improvements.

Read the same. Par for the course with these sorts of design engineers and talent in general. Rare for them to stay on on what effectively become a BAU role, once they’ve achieved the project ambition. Then it’s time to move on to the next challenge. How they keep sharp and employable.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Read the same. Par for the course with these sorts of design engineers and talent in general. Rare for them to stay on on what effectively become a BAU role, once they’ve achieved the project ambition. Then it’s time to move on to the next challenge. How they keep sharp and employable.

We see the same in my (super large) corporation. (but we don't do ARM chip design!)

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2. Running Windows for ARM requires Parallels. That in itself is OK performance-wise generally but doubtless an extra complication and cost. Then there is…

Looks like UTM can run ARM Windows 10/11 on the M1/M2.

https://mac.getutm.app

I've not tried it myself though.

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Looks like UTM can run ARM Windows 10/11 on the M1/M2. https://mac.getutm.app
I've not tried it myself though.

I've seen reports it works. For home users the VMWare Fusion free edition is worth a look. (Unlike Parallels which is subscription).

Thanks I might give it a try out.

Also quite fancy running some vintage Solaris 9 for giggles. Reminds me of the SPARCstation 5 (or was it a 20..?!) that I first used back in the mid nineties on some Newbridge Networks switching multiplexer. God I feel old now 🤣

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Also quite fancy running some vintage Solaris 9 for giggles. Reminds me of the SPARCstation 5 (or was it a 20..?!) that I first used back in the mid nineties on some Newbridge Networks switching multiplexer. God I feel old now 🤣

SunOS?? 🤣 We had the pizza box machines with the huge paperwhite CRT displays at uni… most of the time running graphical desktops with 3 or 4 xterms with 80x25 sessions using VI or similar…. (Mid 1990s)

Yeah the pizza boxes. Must’ve been SunOS. No idea what version it was.

Early nineties at uni in computer science had NCD terminals running X-windows off some unix boxes I think it was running System V - networked by nothing less than 10Base-5 ‘thicknet’ with plug in transceivers. In e/engineering we had Linux on PCs and this new fangled star wired 10BaseT Ethernet. although I recall there was some thinnet Ethernet, TokenRing and FDDI about the place.

Now how to knock out a couple of student labs…

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Now how to knock out a couple of student labs…

We had the thicknet and the thinnet with the terminators. PCs were DOS, but the Sun lab was only for the CompSci students, most others used the VAX cluster, or the AlphaVAX if you were into database engineering…. Linux? What was that then…. 😂

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In reply to a post by Pheasant:

2. Running Windows for ARM requires Parallels. That in itself is OK performance-wise generally but doubtless an extra complication and cost. Then there is…

Looks like UTM can run ARM Windows 10/11 on the M1/M2.

https://mac.getutm.app

I've not tried it myself though.

I’ll have a little play over the crimbo break and see what sort of figures GeekBench shoots out from W11 for ARM under Parallels and UTM on an M1 Max and native on a Volterra.