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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Oct-10 12:57:32
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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Mr SpeX thanks for your continuing interest (at 2am+!) - well I did that bt speedtesty whatnot and for the first time since I tried doing it, it actually managed an upload test as well. During the test it said at the top of the screen "No of threads are 16!" I would like to think that is a good thing but I have a sneaky suspicion it isn't.

Anyway here is the result of the speedtest jury:

Test1 comprises of two tests

1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.

Download Speed
3246 Kbps

0 Kbps 4000 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

Download speedachieved during the test was - 3246 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 1200-4000 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :4512 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 3500 Kbps
The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 13.11:26.35:60.54 (SBE:NBE:PBE)
These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.

The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes.

2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.

Upload Speed
369 Kbps

0 Kbps 448 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

>Upload speed achieved during the test was - 369 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 448 Kbps

We were unable to identify any performance problem with your service at this time.
It is possible that any problem you are currently, or had previously experienced may have been caused by traffic congestion on the Internet or by the server you were accessing responding slowly.
If you continue to encounter a problem with a specific server, please contact the administrator of that server in the first instance.
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AND here is the result of the TBB speedtest done about 5 minutes later:
Downstream 1.7
Upstream 0.4

AND the ZDNet Sppedtest came in at 1.4 and then 1.2

AND the FiveFwd Speedtest came in a few minutes later at 1.66 down 0.34 up.

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Any further insights welcome and gratefully received.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Oct-10 13:17:11
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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In reply to a post by magosa:
Any further insights welcome and gratefully received.
you should diagnose and correct the noise problem.

This link is what you need to do - http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/troubleshooting.html

Edited by deleted (Sat 30-Oct-10 13:24:21)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Oct-10 13:30:54
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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In reply to a post by magosa:
4. No master socket



High probability of a star wired internal wiring setup. Where does the telephone line come into the house and how are the extensions then connected up?

Removing the ring wire at all extensions is often very beneficial if this is the case.


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Sat 30-Oct-10 15:54:07
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
you should diagnose and correct the noise problem.
Where's the evidence of a noise problem?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Oct-10 15:58:39
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
In reply to a post by BatBoy:
you should diagnose and correct the noise problem.
Where's the evidence of a noise problem?
1. Zen 8000 Active
Connection Speed Downstream 4512 kbps Upstream 448 kbps

3.
Line Attenuation Downstream 37.0 db Upstream 18.0 db
Noise Margin Downstream 5.8 db Upstream 17.0 db
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Sat 30-Oct-10 16:39:17
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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That's only evidence of low Sync speed, which could be as a result of contention or throttling. The NM is at the standard 6 dB. It would be much higher if there is noise,

Is it too much for you to explain your cryptic laconic comments? It's no help to the OP. You have already been warned about such unhelpful interjections.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Oct-10 16:43:32
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
That's only evidence of low Sync speed, which could be as a result of contention or throttling. The NM is at the standard 6 dB.
Wrong, contention and throttling do not affect sync speed.

I know you're trying to help, as we all are. Can you not divert this thread into an attack?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Sat 30-Oct-10 16:45:47
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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OK, so explain your conclusion please!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Oct-10 16:50:18
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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OK, so explain your conclusion please!
ADSL Max syncs as fast as it can, the max sync for the attenuation is far higher than what it's currently syncing at. The target noise margin should be a round number, the wiring is suspect. the performance of the connection is poor. This all points to a noise problem.

My approach would be to diagnose the reason for the noise problem and cure it.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Sat 30-Oct-10 17:48:10
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Re: Speed issues - be gentle


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Let's get this straight!

So you are saying that because the Sync Speed is significantly slower than expected for that attenuation, then there must be a noise problem?

In that case I would have expected the NM to be significantly higher than 6 dB.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB

Edited by XRaySpeX (Sat 30-Oct-10 18:00:26)

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