My woes seem to be ended. I bought a new fibre-in-the-cabinet router it being a TP-LINK gigabit 300 Mbps "n"-rated with 1 WAN and 4 LAN + usb with wired and wireless which provides instaneous e-mails (instead of a full minute). Both puters are back to full results and my wife's iPad also works
I got rid of the Technicolor TG582n which worked on ADSL but was s-l-o-w as soon as I went fibre yet it was sold to me as being fibrous........
Tonight's speeds are HTTP 38.9 average download with burst at 58.9 --- TBB download was 24 for average and burst. The upload was 5.4 being burst at 6
So it was the hardware, who would have thought I had the wrong router



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