In reply to a post by Samadeus:

I've just seen it's cheaper to call a mobile in the US than the UK. Leisurely.

That's because US mobile users pay the additional termination costs of incoming calls over the termination costs of landline calls. It's typical for US mobile contract bundles to include a bundle of incoming minutes or unlimited incoming minutes.

In the UK, the additional costs of mobile termination fall on the calling party, not the called party.

You really are [censored] me off now. Are you brain dead? Me mentioning Zen's low £11.22 line rental, which is the subject matter of this thread, and the fact that I CHOOSE to have the higher package with 5,000 minutes included, are TWO different things. I mentioned the higher package I am on, ALONG with the fact it's barely any more than line rental with BT et al, when you were whining about Zen call cost. How about you just stop digging and making a fool of yourself. Find line STANDARD rental LOWER than £11.22 or shut up. You also ignore the fact i AM mixing and matching to get the deal I want, just as you keep prattling on about! You are as bad as Primus when they claimed cheapest line rental at a few pennies more than Zen, where my complaint was upheld and the claim removed.

Edited by professor973 (Wed 05-Nov-14 14:02:48)

Come on boys - play nicely.

Remove pin and release hand grenade:

IDNet Line rental = £10pm Plus VAT = £144

OR

Pay Annually £132 or £11 inc VAT per month equivalent.

PS May be short-lived as IDNet appears not to have reviewed its phone prices lately.

You learn something new every day.

I was just about to move my family to the US to save me money!

In reply to a post by David_W:

In reply to a post by Samadeus:

I've just seen it's cheaper to call a mobile in the US than the UK. Leisurely.

That's because US mobile users pay the additional termination costs of incoming calls over the termination costs of landline calls. It's typical for US mobile contract bundles to include a bundle of incoming minutes or unlimited incoming minutes.

In the UK, the additional costs of mobile termination fall on the calling party, not the called party.

Sky Unlimited Talk, (£5/mo), includes free unlimited calls to US and Canadian mobiles, together with free unlimited calls to most of the other world's landlines.

In reply to a post by professor973:

You really are [censored] me off now. Are you brain dead? Me mentioning Zen's low £11.22 line rental, which is the subject matter of this thread, and the fact that I CHOOSE to have the higher package with 5,000 minutes included, are TWO different things. I mentioned the higher package I am on, ALONG with the fact it's barely any more than line rental with BT et al, when you were whining about Zen call cost. How about you just stop digging and making a fool of yourself. Find line STANDARD rental LOWER than £11.22 or shut up. You also ignore the fact i AM mixing and matching to get the deal I want, just as you keep prattling on about! You are as bad as Primus when they claimed cheapest line rental at a few pennies more than Zen, where my complaint was upheld and the claim removed.

Why £11.22 - that doesn't exist anymore from Zen. You are about to pay £18.30 for the service you are getting from Zen. Full stop.

I don't ignore the fact that you have a broadband service from another supplier, it's just that you refuse to say what the total cost of both services to you are. It is possible that it could be done cheaper, but then you move the goal posts and say the service would be rubbish.

Now for some of us there is line rental saver available and for others retention deals have pushed down the price paid for the voice service. Yes I can find instances where the line rental is cheaper than Zen's December prices but they are not available to everyone so there is no point.

You are rather like a blancmange, impossible to nail down.

I agree, if people cannot debate without recourse to insults and name calling then I will do my usual unpopular thing of deleting posts or suspending repeat offenders.

Keeping a user forum respectful so that everyone is happy to express their opinion is a difficult task, and more so when long terms users should know how to conduct themselves.

In reply to a post by trolleybus:

Why £11.22 - that doesn't exist anymore from Zen.

Zen Home Talk is £11.22 (increasing to £12.30 on 1st December)

http://www.zen.co.uk/home-office/voice/phone-service...

In reply to a post by professor973:

In reply to a post by therioman:

In reply to a post by professor973:

... nested quotes trimmed ...

Then point me to a company LESS than £11.22 per month, with no contract tie-in or call connection charges and per second billing.

30 seconds on google suggests probably:

http://www.idnet.com/voice_products/homephone.php

for one meets your criteria (can't say I've read all the terms in detail, but it is monthly, cheaper, per second...

You really are a riot. How is £15 a month cheaper? Even the Post Office is £2 cheaper than that. As for a long tie-in and three figures of your money is another's bank for a year is laughable against £11.22 and no tie-in or wonga up front to get it.

What are you on about?

£10.00 per month - line only - pretty close to Zen although I hadn't spotted the VAT thing, but you're looking at entirely the wrong thing for £15.00 a month... that's a different option.

It states clearly £12.00 inc VAT - OK a bit more expensive for "line only" than Zen on a 1 month deal, but cheaper on a 12 month deal (lots of people like that) - but nowhere near the prices others charge.

And if you wanted calls, it's again pretty damn comparable. They're very very close on price.

Meanwhile I believe the other rabbit in your message is about a 1 year up-front deal - £110 - or £9.16 per month - if that's your preference, but we weren't talking about that... but that does make it cheaper than Zen if you're a commitment sort.

I think sir you need to go to Specsavers and re-read the idnet page!

PS - from 1st December, Zen charge £12.30 for the "line only" - that's 30p a month more than ID is (assuming nothing is changing, as it doesn't appear to be), and will charge 30p more for the "unlimited" style option.

Edited by therioman (Wed 05-Nov-14 18:03:06)

In reply to a post by David_W:

In reply to a post by Samadeus:

I've just seen it's cheaper to call a mobile in the US than the UK. Leisurely.

That's because US mobile users pay the additional termination costs of incoming calls over the termination costs of landline calls. It's typical for US mobile contract bundles to include a bundle of incoming minutes or unlimited incoming minutes.

In the UK, the additional costs of mobile termination fall on the calling party, not the called party.

Is that actually true anymore (the US bit?) - I couldn't find a carrier stating any cost of incoming calls, so I assume that's no longer the case. It's been cheaper to call most other countries for years than to call other numbers here.