The IDnet £12 does not include caller display which I need, or 1571 which is free many places elsewhere, so it's the £15 premium service, or another £2.50 to add them individually. We can all be pedantic and continue splitting hairs, which is the main content here - Keep looking.

Edited by professor973 (Wed 05-Nov-14 19:32:07)

In reply to a post by therioman:

In line with the rest of industry, we're pushing up Line Rental, whilst the wholesale cost of it continues to rise"

Oh no wait, it DOESN'T keep rising.

I struggle to see why Zen is a good choice anymore. The service is no better than anyone else, it's behind in some areas, the pricing still attracts a premium for the broadband, but the line rental is profiteering.

I've yet to see any compelling justification. Because frankly, there isn't one.

wow I think zen have been too honest

Pushing prices up because your competitor has done so is a cartel

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

wow I think zen have been too honest

Pushing prices up because your competitor has done so is a cartel

NOPE
Cartel noun
1. an international syndicate, combine, or trust formed especially to regulate prices and output in some field of business.
2. a coalition of political or special-interest groups having a common cause, as to encourage the passage of a certain law.
3. a written agreement between belligerents, especially for the exchange of prisoners.
4. a written challenge to a duel.


Pushing prices up because your competitor has done so is reacting to the market.

OR

Pushing prices up because your supplier has done so is changing with your environment.

Costs go up annually regardless of the wholesale element of the service.

In reply to a post by professor973:

Costs go up annually regardless of the wholesale element of the service.

A bit like people's salaries.

I know unless its pre agreed with competitors strictly speaking its not a cartel, but its not far from it.

Its more market failure than anything else.

Nothing compared to various local petrol stations raising prices overnight to the decimal point. Can only be agreed, but allowed by the Government as a cash cow.

In reply to a post by Stevenage_Neil:

In reply to a post by professor973:

Costs go up annually regardless of the wholesale element of the service.

A bit like people's salaries.

Apart from government ministers there isn't many other peoples wages being increased in fact most have decreased over the years or remain at levels seen 10 yrs ago, IMO SP's are just like utility companies once one or two hike their price the others like good sheep are all to quick follow , Line rental fees in the uk are a rip off , also re Zen imo if someone chooses to have both telephony (line rental ) and FTTC they should see a discounted price, ie the £11.22 lr + £25/£30 for the 80/20, but for them to charge a higher fee to FTTC customers than they do for ADSL doesn't make sense,unless they don't want buisness?

Maybe fttc customers make less phone calls as voip is better. Thus incremental revenue from calls not available.

Voice was same price when fttc had usage limits if I recall.

And don't ISPs have rising bills from these greedy utility companies? I expect they have electricity running their offices, an ever increasing water/sewage service, escalating insurance costs just to name a few. With regard to varying Zen line cost, as fair as BT charging the same for copper and fibre broadband, with them still charging no more for line than others.

Edited by professor973 (Sun 09-Nov-14 14:51:14)