In reply to a post by kam67:

Yes you are right - still waiting to hear if Openreach have agreed to Zen’s request for an expedited cease and reprovide.

Reading about your problem puts me off changing to FTTP even more so. As I have said before, HASSLE.
I hope you get it sorted soon

The bird wire might make for a good LTE mesh antenna. What's the spacing of the air gaps?


[kidding]

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by kam67:

Yes you are right - still waiting to hear if Openreach have agreed to Zen’s request for an expedited cease and reprovide.

Reading about your problem puts me off changing to FTTP even more so. As I have said before, HASSLE.
I hope you get it sorted soon

Theres no need to kick a man in the nads when he's down and depressed. C'mon man.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Theres no need to kick a man in the nads when he's down and depressed. C'mon man.

LOL, I did think of it like that, but I do hope they get it sorted soon. They seem to be taking a long time.

Today Zen has confirmed that they will be carrying out an expedited cease and reprovide. So let’s hope this is the beginning of the end/the light at the end of this whole painful saga and that it will be a happy outcome; even if it takes a while - Zen are hopeful it will be resolved by late next week.

P.S. So for those who have followed this thread - please send your good wishes!

Edited by kam67 (Fri 09-Dec-22 13:33:06)

That's good, and yes let's hope it works.

The cynic in me says it will, but not as a direct result of what Openreach do. It will presumably mean Zen have to completely reset your connection at their end. 'Nuff said?

What is Openreach’s part in the cease and reprovide procedure?

Edited by kam67 (Fri 09-Dec-22 20:18:17)

Note that Openreach is the BT Group company that provides the exchanges and the actual connection network. Within each exchange a/your connection can be connected either to BT Wholesale or the ISP's (in this case Zen) own onward/receiving backhaul to Zen's in-house routers and servers.

Lift and shift on FTTP I'm not familiar but expect it is similar in effect to on FTTC, where your connection goes through different physical ports on the Openreach and other equipment in the exchange. Or perhaps the distribution port serving your premises. I dunno!

If it goes via BT Wholesale Zen has to connect into at least one of BTW's 20 nodes to collect or send the traffic. If it goes via Zen's own backhaul, (fibre rented from some other network provider) then it tends to be far cheaper for Zen than using the BTW service.

However there is no escaping the Openreach physical connection between you the subscriber and the exchange unless one of the newer companies such as CityFibre has cabled your street. (And of course Virgin Media which has been around for decades but is a different technology). If with one of these new companies or an ISP that uses them then Openreach are not really involved in the day-to-day stuff.

I was under the impression that cease and reprovide did not involve physical changes in the (Openreach?) network - or does it?

Many years ago during my first stint on AAISP, they did a cease and reprovide to get me moved to another DSLAM vendor, both vendors operated by BTw.

But that was a long time ago, not sure if its physical now days.