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Standard User prlzx
(experienced) Sun 18-Dec-22 17:32:28
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Re: FTTP Installation A Total Disaster


[re: kam67] [link to this post]
 
Yes you can always open a thread over on (say) Home Networking if you decide to revisit that in the context of the home LAN.

@ Realalemadrid, ashdown
It's so long since I had it enabled, I can't remember if it was already on for router connectivity, and it was the /48 prefix that needed to be requested (to support LAN sub-netting / delegation).
That also means the policy for new users could have changed.

@ jimbof
If the question was "is it absolutely essential" then at the moment, most people would probably not notice the lack of IPv6..
However I would not order an Internet connection that could not provide dual-stack because I would have concerns about the provider's technical capabilities and forward planning, if they are going to wait until external factors dictate their timetable and priorities.

I have left a previous ISP because they stated they had no plans to introduce it (I had expected them to have a plan and some testing environment even if was not a priority yet).

For reference, Google's stats for users with IPv6 connectivity is currently 40% increasing at a rate of 3-5% per year, and about 44% adoption in the UK.
I'd like that to reach 80% so that dual stack becomes the norm before too many UK devices are forced onto CGNAT.

I'm glad that it was rolled out on mainstream xDSL and FTTx connectivity providers.
But there are still a few dragging their heels.



prlzx on Zen: FTTC (VDSL) at ~40Mbps / 10Mbps
with IP4/6 (no v6? - not true Internet)
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sun 18-Dec-22 17:37:03
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Re: FTTP Installation A Total Disaster


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In reply to a post by kam67:
As suspected by myself and many of you, after running an extended ping test while my computer was connected to my router via ethernet, no packet loss was detected. So that’s good news!

Now to explore how best to improve Wi-Fi reception throughout the property…. I was hoping to get hold of the highly recommended (including by several other Zen fibre users) Asus AX88U, but at the moment it seems to be out of stock everywhere (apart from a few used ones on EBay).


Wi-fi is awful, that is why anything I have that use a lot of data is connected via Ethernet and any smart home hubs that can be is also connected via Ethernet and the printer. I do find that the older 2.4Ghz Wi-fi works far better than modern 5Ghz and if I can find where I put my old TP link router I am going to put that back in line 2,4GhZ wi-fi only

Adrian

Desktop machine Ryzen powered with windows something or other.

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sun 18-Dec-22 17:38:50
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Re: FTTP Installation A Total Disaster


[re: kam67] [link to this post]
 
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Success!

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...


Great news,
I think I will stay as I am, it works.

Adrian

Desktop machine Ryzen powered with windows something or other.

Plusnet FTTC


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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sun 18-Dec-22 17:48:07
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[re: prlzx] [link to this post]
 
I think your point is fair on the comment in regards to forward planning.

However an ISP might not tell a customer if they have plans until they prepared to make it public, I expect many things get trialled internally without anything announced.

VM Gig1 - AAISP L2TP
Standard User Bryer
(experienced) Sun 18-Dec-22 19:01:26
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Re: FTTP Installation A Total Disaster


[re: prlzx] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by prlzx:
Yes you can always open a thread over on (say) Home Networking if you decide to revisit that in the context of the home LAN.

@ Realalemadrid, ashdown
It's so long since I had it enabled, I can't remember if it was already on for router connectivity, and it was the /48 prefix that needed to be requested (to support LAN sub-netting / delegation).
That also means the policy for new users could have changed.

@ jimbof
If the question was "is it absolutely essential" then at the moment, most people would probably not notice the lack of IPv6..
However I would not order an Internet connection that could not provide dual-stack because I would have concerns about the provider's technical capabilities and forward planning, if they are going to wait until external factors dictate their timetable and priorities.

I have left a previous ISP because they stated they had no plans to introduce it (I had expected them to have a plan and some testing environment even if was not a priority yet).

For reference, Google's stats for users with IPv6 connectivity is currently 40% increasing at a rate of 3-5% per year, and about 44% adoption in the UK.
I'd like that to reach 80% so that dual stack becomes the norm before too many UK devices are forced onto CGNAT.

I'm glad that it was rolled out on mainstream xDSL and FTTx connectivity providers.
But there are still a few dragging their heels.


It's a shame all the new Alt-nets are NOT IPv6 from the get go. I know of a few that are still only using IPv4 and have already said they are running out of available addresses.

FTTP should have rolled out with dual stack across the UK when they started, with all ISP's wishing to provide a service having to offer a IPv6 version, it's been around for 22 years, so not like it's new to the industry, it's just lazyness from what I can tell.
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Sun 18-Dec-22 20:19:36
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I don't think that ISPs providing a connection that is CGNAT with no IPv6 should be allowed to advertise it as an Internet connection.
Standard User Fido
(experienced) Sun 18-Dec-22 21:38:10
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Forgive me if I am being obtuse but this thread is getting quite long and I am not too sure where this thread is up to.

It started off as a disastrous installation connection that was eventually corrected.

Then, the well know poor Fritzbox Router WIFI issues that many of us have experienced and now it seems to be mainly about packet loss but I am not sure if this is being tested over WIFI or via Ethernet.

Personally, I only ever test via ethernet tests/checks or tests carried out via a PC connected by ethernet to the router or via the internal software systems within the Asus Router that I use which has an Ookla Speed test and Network Tools that are built into the Asus Router itself.

Is there packet loss and/or performance issues when the tests are carried out via ethernet ?

Zen 900 mbps FTTP
Standard User kam67
(member) Sun 18-Dec-22 21:39:19
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In reply to a post by kam67:
Success!

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...


Great news,


Thanks! It’s a good feeling to finally see clear horizons after I’d almost given up.
Standard User kam67
(member) Sun 18-Dec-22 21:45:39
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Re: FTTP Installation A Total Disaster


[re: Fido] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Fido:
Forgive me if I am being obtuse but this thread is getting quite long and I am not too sure where this thread is up to.

It started off as a disastrous installation connection that was eventually corrected.

Then, the well know poor Fritzbox Router WIFI issues that many of us have experienced and now it seems to be mainly about packet loss but I am not sure if this is being tested over WIFI or via Ethernet.

Personally, I only ever test via ethernet tests/checks or tests carried out via a PC connected by ethernet to the router or via the internal software systems within the Asus Router that I use which has an Ookla Speed test and Network Tools that are built into the Asus Router itself.

Is there packet loss and/or performance issues when the tests are carried out via ethernet ?


Hi Fido - yes you are quite right - the thread has morphed. However what really matters to me at least is that there is a happy ending (for now at least! Hopefully I won’t rue the day I declared victory over the various gremlins that have troubled my connection). The packet loss has been correctly diagnosed as a symptom of the router’s response to more than one monitor being active at one time. As you can see it has ceased:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

Edited by kam67 (Sun 18-Dec-22 21:49:05)

Standard User prlzx
(experienced) Sun 18-Dec-22 22:06:08
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True enough. I did contact them directly and say that it was a factor in me considering needing to change providers unless they could give some kind of indication, and that if they had a group of customers testing it I would be happy to participate.


It was after RIPE announced final /8 block being distributed and before the Sky and BT roll outs so some time ago, when AAISP, IDNet were the main dual-stack options (I went to IDNet before eventually moving to Zen for FTTC).



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