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Standard User blfamily
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 07-Nov-23 12:19:27
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Full Fibre from Zen?


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What Network does Zen use - I am in a City Fibre/Openreach overlap area. Currently on FTTC with BT (no contract) and FTTP has just become available - City Fibre say Zen is a customer and so do Openreach - I can't find the info on the Zen website so was wondering if anyone knew, or is it hit and miss depending on routing? - I am in Warwickshire.
BT are £48.78 inc My AnyTime calls discounted to £1.29 a month for 64-70mbps
BT are offering 150mbps and 500mbps for same price and 900mbps for£1 more for Halo3.
I already have the Fritz 7530 from a failed attempt to move to Zen during Covid and would stick to that.

Is there a benefit in having Digital Voice, I rarely use the landline anyway. Is £6 a month worth it from Zen or not?
I also notice BT has guaranteed download of 425mbps compared to Zen's 250 mbps guarantee. for 500mbps - is that a red flag?

Steve
Standard User ParksidePeter
(learned) Tue 07-Nov-23 14:00:56
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Re: Full Fibre from Zen?


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Zen use CityFibre. I'm paying £40/month for 900Mbps plus £1.44/month to Andrews & Arnold for VoIP.
Oookla Speedtest says that I'm getting 920Mbps download and 941Mbps upload, ping 9ms.
Standard User wiggsc00
(newbie) Tue 07-Nov-23 15:07:57
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Re: Full Fibre from Zen?


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+1 for Zen. £32 monthly for 300Mbps symmetrical and £1.44 to A&A for the landline.

BT is not symmetrical so upload will be limited to 30 or 40 Mbps

Get zen to install with no phone, then order a&a's VoIP numbe transfer. You can use the fritzbox as the phone hub
A&A service transfer will cease the existing fttc when the number ports.


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Standard User Garet
(newbie) Tue 07-Nov-23 16:09:58
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Re: Full Fibre from Zen?


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It's worth checking your postcode on the Cityfibre website to see if they actually have Zen where you are. In my area there is no Zen on Cityfibre, but in other areas of the same county it is. Zen through Cityfibre, if available, is cheaper than Zen on Openreach
Standard User Iniltous
(regular) Tue 07-Nov-23 16:13:51
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Re: Full Fibre from Zen?


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In reply to a post by wiggsc00:
+1 for Zen. £32 monthly for 300Mbps symmetrical and £1.44 to A&A for the landline.

BT is not symmetrical so upload will be limited to 30 or 40 Mbps

Get zen to install with no phone, then order a&a's VoIP numbe transfer. You can use the fritzbox as the phone hub
A&A service transfer will cease the existing fttc when the number ports.

If you went for 900Mb with an Openreach based provider then the upload is 110Mb not 30 or 40
In areas were Zen are available on both CF and OR , presumably they would offer access to both , if they have the appropriate interconnections etc , in those cases it should be clear which network the service is being offer over , and obviously you should be able to favour one over the other if you wanted to

Edited by Iniltous (Tue 07-Nov-23 16:17:57)

Standard User blfamily
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 07-Nov-23 19:10:07
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TY Garet
No Zen on CityFibre, just some unheard of operators promising 900 up and 900 down, plus Gigabit, AA, Idnet & Vodafone.

Steve
Standard User Garet
(newbie) Tue 07-Nov-23 20:11:01
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No problem.

For what it's worth I went with IDNet, but only the 150/150 tier, though it seems to actually run at 160/160. The main reason being they do static ipv4 and ipv6 by default at no extra cost, none of this £5 extra per month. I don't know if they still do it but when I ordered it (April) they offered a lower monthly cost if you paid the first year upfront.
Standard User wiggsc00
(newbie) Tue 07-Nov-23 22:30:43
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Re: Full Fibre from Zen?


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In reply to a post by Iniltous:
If you went for 900Mb with an Openreach based provider then the upload is 110Mb not 30 or 40
In areas were Zen are available on both CF and OR , presumably they would offer access to both , if they have the appropriate interconnections etc , in those cases it should be clear which network the service is being offer over , and obviously you should be able to favour one over the other if you wanted to

Not everyone wants to, can afford or needs 900 Mbit

If you look at openreach. It's 30-40 Upto 150Mbps and 50 for 300

So I'm not wrong. 115mbps upload on a 900 service is still slower than mine on Zen.

Edited by wiggsc00 (Tue 07-Nov-23 22:34:08)

Standard User Iniltous
(regular) Wed 08-Nov-23 07:32:12
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Standard User Iniltous
(regular) Wed 08-Nov-23 08:05:31
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You didn’t qualify your statement in any way , your post never linked what you claimed is BT upload speed to a particular download speed profile , you simply stated ( inaccurately) that BT was limited to 30 or 40Mb which is wrong
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