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Standard User countryman69
(newbie) Wed 23-Oct-24 18:35:39
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Re: FRITZ!OS 8.00 - frequent dropouts


[re: NewMoon] [link to this post]
 
I'm afraid that I have no idea what it is you're trying to say. But never mind.

Zen asked me to do a Factory Reset today. I'd already tried that but agreed to try it again. Then let it run for a couple of hours with minimal internet activity. No reboots. Gradually started adding stuff, streaming videos, audio, uploading the security camera video. After 30 minutes it rebooted. And so it went on for the next couple of hours. That's good enough for me. YVMV
Standard User countryman69
(newbie) Wed 23-Oct-24 18:41:48
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Re: FRITZ!OS 8.00 - frequent dropouts


[re: binary] [link to this post]
 
These odd 'variation's are frustrating. You can't Mesh yet others can. I have three routers ...two 7530 and the loan 7530AX. The Mobile Network option is provided on one router - a 7530 - but not on the other two. I'm wondering if over the years there is firmware burned into part of the router as part of the Zen 'special'. The AVM software then overlaid on top of this. Early versions of the Zen edition router allowed the mobile network option. Certainly the rouuer that allows Mobile Networks is the oldest of the lot. Then Zen blocked that option later on.
Standard User NewMoon
(newbie) Wed 23-Oct-24 23:38:34
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Re: FRITZ!OS 8.00 - frequent dropouts


[re: Pottsy320] [link to this post]
 
There isn't any bloat. The Zen model only comes preconfigured to work with Zen network - VPI, VTI and VC values are hardocoded, as is the URL of the TR-069 server.

On non-Zen versions, German providers are preconfigured. Everything else looks the same.


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Standard User freddybob
(newbie) Wed 23-Oct-24 23:42:14
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Re: FRITZ!OS 8.00 - frequent dropouts


[re: toby5596] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by toby5596:
It doesn't seem to allow connections to any of the AVM mesh repeaters


I had a similar problem over the weekend with my non-AX 7530 on v8.00 and fixed it by factory resetting the box and the repeater.
Standard User NewMoon
(newbie) Thu 24-Oct-24 00:28:32
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Re: FRITZ!OS 8.00 - frequent dropouts


[re: countryman69] [link to this post]
 
Certainly my mileage varies: my router reboots even in the middle of the night, when all computers are off and there's a near zero load on the network. I have email reports being sent at every reboot, and the reboot times were as follows during the last night:

00:05, 00:51, 01:15, 01:52, 02:28, 02:40, 04:10, 05:06, 05:23, 10:24, 10:36, 12:00.

Besides, an overloaded router should simply slow down instedad of rebooting.

Finally, there are no reports of problems with editions other than Zen, while Zen has the same internals as the mainstream edition I suppose.

So, I'm incluned to say that the problem is caused by a software bug rather than an overload.
Standard User NewMoon
(newbie) Thu 24-Oct-24 00:32:03
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[re: freddybob] [link to this post]
 
Yes, repeaters should be factory reset after every formware upgrade, or so I was told on another forum (and it helped fix my problem with repeaters). No need to factory reset the box, though.

Edited by NewMoon (Thu 24-Oct-24 00:32:48)

Standard User countryman69
(newbie) Thu 24-Oct-24 06:52:37
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Re: FRITZ!OS 8.00 - frequent dropouts


[re: NewMoon] [link to this post]
 
Interesting. Are you running a weblogging app that generates the emails when it loses contact with the web (as in a reboot)?

Besides, an overloaded router should simply slow down instedad of rebooting Not necessarily. If there is a h/w watchdog that needs resetting, then 'slowing down' could stop sending the reset. Ergo a reboot.

How do you know if the Zen version has the same internals ? Have you stripped both types down?

I keep coming back to wondering what exactly is the difference in the Zen s/w to the mainstream version. And, of course, any h/w differences. Could it be that there is minimal s/w difference...merely that the router is (or should be) preloaded with the account and password ?
Standard User countryman69
(newbie) Thu 24-Oct-24 07:00:13
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Re: FRITZ!OS 8.00 - frequent dropouts


[re: NewMoon] [link to this post]
 
The Zen model only comes preconfigured to work with Zen network - VPI, VTI and VC values are hardocoded, as is the URL of the TR-069 server.

On non-Zen versions, German providers are preconfigured. Everything else looks the same.


Doesn't this contradict with your other statement in a later post saying that it is s/w related ? No reported issues with other 7530 routers. If we assume that there is no difference to the s/w per se (other than the pre-configured details ie just data..not code) then all we are left with is a difference in the hardware. If that is the case then my money would be on a smaller amount of memory.

Gosh, this takes me back decades to the days of the Intel 20286 which had a bug in the silicon that only manifested itself under certain conditions but nevertheless required a chip replacement FOC. Intel went to great pains to keep that under wraps.
Standard User jamsmv6
(learned) Thu 24-Oct-24 10:42:44
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Well Zen have just asked for their OLD router back.

So guess they are either looking for affected devices to test with, or know they cant forward fix this.
Standard User GoWest
(regular) Thu 24-Oct-24 11:17:15
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[re: countryman69] [link to this post]
 
I buy my Fritz! equipment from across the Channel (7390/7490/7590/4060 and Repeaters 3000 and 6000). Both the 7390 and 7490 were German versions that needed to be re flashed: the rest were loaded with international software and came with EU plug.

I have had some issues with beta software and I have the occasional glitch when updating. The latter was resolved by power rebooting the box.

The ‘locking’ of a router to a particular ISP is pretty short-sighted IMHO. It may save on support costs (save for the present 7530 situation) but it does nothing for the ISP’s green credentials.
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