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(deleted) Sat 23-Oct-10 01:39:57
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Re: Right all connected up


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Yes, 2 & 5 only as advised by Andrew - other pairs cut off at the stripped back point of the outer sheath smile

As mentioned until I get the final layout of the office/bedroom sorted I have used a flying lead ending. So will 'wire' up again later using an extension type socket.

I understand the DLM likes to pause for breath but most latterly the sync has been nicely over 3000 even when a need to power down meant a resync.....we shall see how the DLM does its job over the next few days......not that uncommon to have a stuck profile frown

smile

In reply to a post by andyboygsi:
2 and 5 only, the bell wire just becomes an aerial and picks up any [censored] throughout your house.

ensure that you use an extension socket to terminate the wire in and not a master...dead easy to tell, there are no additional components on the pcb of an extension.

the dslam may cut back sync speed if it sees a disconnection so give it time
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 23-Oct-10 13:10:59
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Re: Right all connected up


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Why do people do this, and cut the wires off. this makes any future work difficult, they simply need to be lifted and tucked out of the way

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(deleted) Sat 23-Oct-10 13:17:35
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Re: Right all connected up


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i second that, lost count of the number of times i could have done with a spare pair and some one had previously cut of all spare copper


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 23-Oct-10 22:17:00
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Re: Right all connected up


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Hi both

Yes, could not agree more ~ if I had used a 'proper' wall mounted socket I would have (will do smile ) just laid back the spare "pairs" but as mentioned I have crimped connected a BT 431A plug at each end......I am not aware of any value is leaving the spare "pairs" hanging out of the back of the plug.

smile

PS Just another thought/question......I have enough extra length on the cable to windup maybe a couple of metres. Will it be detrimental to coil this up and tuck away ???
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(deleted) Sat 23-Oct-10 22:26:09
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Sync'ing at........


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For the record after 1 day the connection log shows:-

xDSL linestate up (ITU-T G.992.1; downstream: 2944 kbit/s, upstream: 448 kbit/s; output Power Down: 18.5 dBm, Up: 11.5 dBm; line Attenuation Down: 55.0 dB, Up: 31.5 dB; snr Margin Down: 6.5 dB, Up: 19.0 dB)

So as at SNR 6.5 holding and if it stays at that 6db bracket the DLM should lift the sync speed above the current 2944 though if it does not lift sometime in the next 72hours would it be best to request a check for a stuck profile or just reboot the router???

Before this reboot and on the older flat wire connection I was on 3904 with if I recall margin of 9db ???
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 23-Oct-10 22:30:33
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Re: Sync'ing at........


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How is the DLM going to give you more speed? 6dB margin is usually the lowest target that they will set.

It is not really clear whether you have made any improvements, since you used to have a higher sync at one time

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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(deleted) Sat 23-Oct-10 23:25:30
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Re: Sync'ing at........


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
How is the DLM going to give you more speed? 6dB margin is usually the lowest target that they will set.

It is not really clear whether you have made any improvements, since you used to have a higher sync at one time


That's just what I was thinking. He's made it worse, instead of better.
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(deleted) Sun 24-Oct-10 01:52:25
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Re: Sync'ing at........


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Errrr! a Homer Simpson moment for me perhaps? Now why would using what is perceived as much improved wiring have a detrimental effect???

Just thought I would do a BT speedtest, results:-

Download speedachieved during the test was - 2296 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 600-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :2944 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 2500 Kbps

Also just checked that my ISP has 'recorded' stable rate as the same (I have seen mismatches in the past) and it says 2500 as well.

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(staff) Sun 24-Oct-10 11:23:19
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Because there was a post saying http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/technical/t/3918088... sync of 3900Kbps at sometime.

Which would be fine for the attenuation, current sync is OK but erring on the low side for the sync.

The stable rate is actually the lowest speed seen in the first 10 days of the lines lifetime, i.e. you should normally be exceeding this speed.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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(deleted) Wed 27-Oct-10 19:21:16
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Update following a router reboot!


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Hi All

An update for you smile

After over 4 days at 2944 sync at 6.5 db margin I decided something was stuck and did a reboot of the router this morning.

This was the log entry for the startup

xDSL linestate up (ITU-T G.992.1; downstream: 3488 kbit/s, upstream: 448 kbit/s; output Power Down: 19.0 dBm, Up: 11.5 dBm; line Attenuation Down: 55.0 dB, Up: 31.5 dB; snr Margin Down: 6.5 dB, Up: 18.0 dB)

As you can see now sync'ed at 3488 for the same margin, this will or should over the next 72 hours raise my IP from 2500 to 3000 ~ checked the BT speedtester this morning just to confirm it was (still) 2500. So a watch this space situation for the next few days???
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