Yes very weird, i think Phil needs to get upto date with this or kick BT into action as i need the status of atleast the first week in november.

It's just the way that they send out the updates really. they send them out for (roughly) the week prior. I'll ask Phil what's going on

Edit: When he gets in that is.

Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Nov-07 10:19:08)

Thanks, update me here when you have info from Phil, i've also heard that Zen have had to take theres down cause of a BT request, so i'm surprised actually you still have yours on the website or even that they are still giving you updates for it.

Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Nov-07 11:16:03)

>> Not very quick though considering its suppose to be weekly, i need to know what my exchange is like and i cant as the data is so outdated.

>>> i think Phil needs to get upto date with this or kick BT into action


Ermm

I don't know if you know this but the exchange checker on Usertools is actually part of the Plusnet UserGroup.

ie - all the tools and tutorials on there were written by Customers of Plusnet

None of the members of PUG get paid or get any recompense for the work they do. Phil wrote the exchange checker as a customer of PN and did this in his own free time several years ago.. long before he worked at Plusnet.

Although he may now work at Plusnet, its still nothing to do with the job he does at PN and he continues to maintain the checker is his own spare time and doesnt get paid to do so.


The list provided by BT is often several weeks out of date - thats not his fault thats but down to reporting by BT and its always been like that. Different exchanges quite often show a different last updated date than some others... it depends on any status changes at a particular exchange.
The checker is and always has been dependant upon information supplied by BT.

In the past Ive noticed that BT wont mark a VP as red until speeds drop down to under 1Mb for a couple of weeks.

>>> Not very quick though considering its suppose to be weekly, i need to know what my exchange is like and i cant as the data is so outdated

Think you will struggle to find information anywhere that is more updated than the one on UserTools.

As an aside - the exchange checker wont help find out why your nttp speeds with UKO are slow.
The fact that youre also getting high latency would also seem to indicate the problem may lie elsewhere.

Ive experienced severe exchange contention several times, but latency is still fine. Even when we had 30+ users on our exchange reporting speeds down to 100-200 kbps - not a single person was seeing any problems with latency.
In all the times that Ive users reporting slow speeds through exchange contention on these and other forums theres only ever been one person whom I've seen it affected his latency.. but his exchange does seem to be problematic no matter which IPStream provider/ service he uses.


>> so i'm surprised actually you still have yours on the website

Its NOT "Plusnets"!

But BT did have a problem with some sites and the information they gave out - the main culprit irrc was the prodigy one - which you could actually work out information about the specific dslams.
Shame it had to go

Hi Tommy,

Just to confirm what Kitz has said. The Usertools Exchange Checker isn't actually owned by PlusNet. It is something that our customers developed (Phil used to be a customer). It is something that he does update in primarily his spare time and it is also something that should only ever be used as a guide and not as a rule of thumb.

Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Nov-07 15:38:18)

Typical Plusnet cop out. What's the point in having that information only to disown it. Honestly you've just lost some unpaid work today with that attitude. If that's the way Sourceforge projects were run, they'd all be late to some degree.

err just in case to avoid misunderstandings: I was being tongue in cheek

Edited by onestar (Fri 09-Nov-07 14:47:20)

Hi Onestar,

I promise you that I didn't mean it like that at all

I think it's great that Phil continues to update the exchange checker since he's been employed here and I reckon he does a pretty nifty job!

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As an aside - the exchange checker wont help find out why your nttp speeds with UKO are slow.
The fact that youre also getting high latency would also seem to indicate the problem may lie elsewhere.

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Well this is what happens, the ping goes from about 14ms to 20ms, and my speeds drop from full speed to around half the speed, so i'm guessing that this is exchange contention?.

Edited by deleted (Fri 09-Nov-07 19:19:55)

James will have a job speaking to me, seeing as I am on holiday (fine holiday this is, sitting on a couch replying to you guys )

Updates tend to be released around 2 to 3 weeks after the date on the update file. This has always been the case, with exception of a variable period over a year ago when the data was shall we say, inconsistently relesed.

I have been slowly automating the update process, as I have less spare time these days to update it manually.

I have just checked an confirm the information on the checker is the latest.

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Typical Plusnet cop out. What's the point in having that information only to disown it.

Honestly you've just lost some unpaid work today with that attitude. If that's the way Sourceforge projects were run, they'd all be late to some degree.

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rofl

Makes you wonder doesnt it?