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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 26-Aug-13 16:39:47
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I did say 'advertised' tongue. A pointless response!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 26-Aug-13 16:40:20
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: Bamster] [link to this post]
 
smile
I've just edited another question into my post, while you were replying smile. About where you got the 38Mbps from.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User Bamster
(regular) Mon 26-Aug-13 16:41:00
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
In reply to a post by Bamster:
I'm on the O2 20mb ADSL deal, but synch at 11mb
The 20 Meg is just the advertised max that O2 can supply to the few who are close to exchange. Your 11 Meg is the speed your particular line will bear due to to your distance to exchange. There is no relationship between the 2 figure except that the latter is always less than the former.


I understand the copper wiring in the home is the last connection from the cabinet?
So my question is considering that I can only receive 50% of 'maximum' bandwidth, I'm asking if its due to:

a) distance form exchange (I'm 800m away)
b) poor/old wiring
c) both, based on my line stats posted.

Or maybe its less of an issue on Fibre?.

I'm not after certainties, just some guidance, if its worth sorting my home phone/sockets prior to PlusNet etc smile



Thanks

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Edited by Bamster (Mon 26-Aug-13 16:43:36)


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 26-Aug-13 16:45:08
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
The quibble was with "There is no relationship between the 2 figure except that the latter is always less than the former". A 24Mbps sync (your latter) is higher than 20Mbps your former). Even the throughput speed can be slightly above 20Mbps on O2.

A pointless rebuttal by you tongue. It's usually you pointing out that sort of trivial inaccuracy in my posts, so swallow your own medicine smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User Bamster
(regular) Mon 26-Aug-13 16:45:08
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
What's this about FTTH? Do you really mean that, or FTTC? There is a huge difference in the delivery systems at your end.

Edit - You probably mean FTTC, from the 38Mbps estimate. But where did you get that from? It may be the top speed of the product, not an estimate for your line. Just like the O2 20Mbps. Or it could be an actual estimate, depending on where you got it from.


From the PlusNet website. Indeed 'up to' is always the crunch, so I'm trying to at least make sure anything I can do my end is done prior to moving to them.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 26-Aug-13 16:49:12
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: Bamster] [link to this post]
 
With an attenuation of 32dB you should be sync'ing at between 13Mbps and 15Mbps or so. So yes, there is probably a problem with your wiring.

I'm still not happy about your 38Mbps. I think you are referring to the Product description. Or did you put your phone number in and that's what it came back with?
Edit - typo.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Mon 26-Aug-13 16:49:59)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 26-Aug-13 16:58:58
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
OK, point taken! But still a pointless remark considering the OP is under the misapprehension that he can only get about 50% of all BB advertised and estimated figures grin.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User Bamster
(regular) Mon 26-Aug-13 18:53:28
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
With an attenuation of 32dB you should be sync'ing at between 13Mbps and 15Mbps or so. So yes, there is probably a problem with your wiring.

I'm still not happy about your 38Mbps. I think you are referring to the Product description. Or did you put your phone number in and that's what it came back with?
Edit - typo.


Yup. Entered my phone number and that's what it came back with when you go through the order process (without paying etc).
It now says 'Up to 34mb'. Also just noticed the "Broadband: Download speed could vary between 7Mb and 9Mb" which is a tad pointless for unlimited Fibre...

Not sure why buying broadband in the country is so ambiguous compared to other EU countries....

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 26-Aug-13 19:09:15
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Depends how long since you read he 38Mbps. It's taken from an Openreach database, and Openreach recently downgraded all estimates by several Mbps.

I've no idea what that 7-9 was. Are you sure it wasn't MBps, (MegaBytes ps)? I've never seen the page, as I signed up over the phone. But 7-9MBps wouldn't make sense either.

Connection speeds are in megabits per second, and download speeds are often quoted in MegaBytes per second. There are 8 bits in a byte.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User Bamster
(regular) Mon 26-Aug-13 20:10:40
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
No i just copied and pasted that from the order process, where it gives you an estimate, in my case 34mb

From the Fibre Optic webpage:

Broadband: Download speed could vary between 7Mb and 9Mb.
Fibre broadband: Speed could vary depending on line conditions and the package you choose

Just checked and its talking about Broadband as well as Fibre Optic, just to confuse the customer even more tongue

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