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Standard User Bamster
(regular) Mon 26-Aug-13 23:35:25
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
If that's all you are doing then stop extrapolating it to Fibre as you have been trying to do, e.g.
In reply to a post by Bamster:
There seems little point me paying £22 pm for 34mb if I'm only going to get 10-15mb


In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Your connection is currently underperforming on ADSL2+. You should be getting nearly 14 Meg. If that is due to a fault in your internal wiring or in that back to the cab, it could similarly affect your fibre speeds.


If my BB is 11mb of 20mb, and a Fibre solution uses part of that infrastructure, then it stands to reason that there is a likelihood that Fibre will be affected also, even if to a lesser degree, which is what you said.

Anyway, not trolling, thanks for the input, original post has been answered.

Thanks all

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 26-Aug-13 23:47:51
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


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If my BB is 11mb of 20mb
Your BB is actually 11 Meg out of about 14 Meg. The 20 Meg has nowt to do with you; it is just part of a product name along with the phrase 'Up to' into which you fall.

The Fibre solution uses a small fraction of the total infrastructure.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 26-Aug-13 23:59:37
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


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Don't forget what I replied to XRaySpeX by the way. You've no need to worry about your home wiring, but if the problem is on the line to the phone cabinet it could be worse on FTTC. But they will look into it if the initial connection is badly below the estimate.

If the problem is between the cabinet and the exchange, it should disappear.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User Bamster
(regular) Tue 27-Aug-13 00:02:11
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
The Fibre solution uses a small fraction of the total infrastructure.


Indeed I see that from the responses. My concern was that even if its a small fraction, if its the last link in the chain, and its ropey as hell, then I was worried just how bad it would be. Hence I hoped my line stats might show if there looked to be an internal wiring issue, knowing I am 800m from the exchange etc.

I don't know how to read them, I just know the state of the phone wiring here, ISDN, BT, Cable and Wireless ISDN. I have sockets with wires hanging out, sockets with no wires, and holes where sockets used to be. My untrained eye thinks is pretty old and not working as well as it should be :/

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 27-Aug-13 05:36:10
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: Bamster] [link to this post]
 
It seems you are misunderstanding the 34mb figure

The maximum speed is 76mb and so you will be getting 34mb of 76mb
Just like how you are getting 11mb of 20mb

Also given that the engineer is most likely going to fix/bypass/patchup the socket wiring paying £22 a month for a minimum of a 3x increase in speed sounds very worth it.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-Aug-13 06:29:59
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The maximum speed is 76mb and so you will be getting 34mb of 76mb
Don't tell the OP but it could even be 34 Meg out of 38 Meg, if he is put on 40/10 product.

That's nearly 90% on OP's scale of things.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User Bamster
(regular) Tue 27-Aug-13 11:17:45
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


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In reply to a post by itschin:
It seems you are misunderstanding the 34mb figure

The maximum speed is 76mb and so you will be getting 34mb of 76mb
Just like how you are getting 11mb of 20mb


I believe the estimate is based on BTW records of that address/phone number, and nothing to do with 'actual speed' you may receive.

RobertoS gave a comprehensive reply, so all good wink

Cheers

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Standard User Bamster
(regular) Tue 27-Aug-13 11:27:10
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Re: Moving to PN - Some pre-move advice please


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
In reply to a post by itschin:
The maximum speed is 76mb and so you will be getting 34mb of 76mb
Don't tell the OP but it could even be 34 Meg out of 38 Meg, if he is put on 40/10 product.

That's nearly 90% on OP's scale of things.


I posted on here because I bow to the knowledge of those like yourself who post responses to noobs like me.

However if you choose to fixate on my term '50%' which I think was clearly a terminology of my current speed, and then assume (incorrectly) that any given estimate on a website has any real world relevance to actual product speeds when installed, then I wont argue with you. You did state earlier on, that the one factor that could effect Fibre speed could be poor home wiring, which really was my original question, posted in the wrong context possibly.

Anyway, my questions been answered.

Thanks

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-Aug-13 12:00:28
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I never said home wiring was 'the one factor' and RobertoS has already excluded that.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 27-Aug-13 17:38:41
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Just to end a different discussion, are you signing up for the "Unlimited" or the "Essentials" package?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 51.8/16.8Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
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