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Standard User therioman
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 23-Jul-06 19:21:33
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Re: Also considering AAISP


[re: xela] [link to this post]
 
Yep, I wouldn't touch AAISP for those reasons, they have so many outages, router issues, supposed DDOS attacks etc it's unreal.

Oh yeah, and I find the attitude generally flippant from certain staffers.

Edited by therioman (Sun 23-Jul-06 19:30:04)

Standard User jZaw
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 24-Jul-06 02:18:41
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Re: Also considering AAISP


[re: therioman] [link to this post]
 
for me whats important is not that they do or do not have outages
or whether the outages are related my line or not

but HOW they recover from them and to a certain extent how quickly

worth every penny for me and defo destressed me totally

jZaw
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Standard User TechnoGoat
(knowledge is power) Mon 24-Jul-06 02:39:40
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Re: Also considering AAISP


[re: therioman] [link to this post]
 
I think the main problem is, that they report every little outtage, when other ISP's wouldn't even bother noting a 15 second drop, you probably would just think it was a slow DNS lookup or similar too. When did you last see plusnets' status update for a 15 second outtage?


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Standard User Chrysalis
(knowledge is power) Mon 24-Jul-06 15:44:38
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Re: Also considering AAISP


[re: TechnoGoat] [link to this post]
 
what stopped me from ordering right now is that my friend on a&a is pinging out a scary amount of times and we are also plotting his connection from various smokeping graphs and some of them have very dodgy looking latency jumps.

regarding his dropouts he always says to me he is messing with his connection tho so it pobably isnt down to a&a all the time.

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Standard User hutchingsp
(knowledge is power) Mon 24-Jul-06 17:58:07
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Has he spoken to AAISP about it?

Some of their CQM graphs are downright scary with the amount of info they show, so if there were a problem between them and him I'd be surprised if they've not got a record of it.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(knowledge is power) Mon 24-Jul-06 19:21:32
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his feedback of a&a is very good, he says they have done everything he said with regards to his line.

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Standard User nmemon
(experienced) Tue 25-Jul-06 17:31:26
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Re: Also considering AAISP


[re: jZaw] [link to this post]
 
In reply to:

1 wan ip on zyxel
4 ips on the lan ... network broadcast and _router_ with a spare from the 4 for an ip on the zyxel lan side
ie for YOUR router

your router's wan ip.... the last from the group of 4 on the _lan_ on the zyxel the spare one from above
with the 16 ips on the lan side of your router ... again network broadcast _router_ and 13 spare for use on your lan


So for 1-4-16 to work, does an ISP need to provide a /30 routing in addition to a /28 block? Else where are the 4 IPs for Zyxel coming from?

Also how does one cope with two modem/routers, eg: if one modem/router is provided by A&A say Zyxel that is setup ready to connect via PPPOA, and one already has another modem/router to cope with the /28 block, does this other router have to be set to transparent bridging?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 25-Jul-06 18:49:37
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Re: Also considering AAISP


[re: nmemon] [link to this post]
 
In reply to:

So for 1-4-16 to work, does an ISP need to provide a /30 routing in addition to a /28 block?




Yes, and this is what A&A does.

In reply to:

Also how does one cope with two modem/routers, eg: if one modem/router is provided by A&A say Zyxel that is setup ready to connect via PPPOA, and one already has another modem/router to cope with the /28 block, does this other router have to be set to transparent bridging?

In reply to:



Provided the second router is a router (2 ethernet interfaces) or a firewall than all is OK.
You use the second router to ...... well do routing between your /30 and your /28 or /27.
If your second router is an ADSL router (1 adsl interface and 1 ethernet interface) then it's not going to work.

Standard User nmemon
(experienced) Tue 25-Jul-06 19:19:16
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If your second router is an ADSL router (1 adsl interface and 1 ethernet interface) then it's not going to work.


I see. I was hoping to try that on my ST 585, with transparent bridging, but it's a bit of a pain to set it up for T/B. In any case I do have some DSL routers that I may use. (Don't the DSL routers basically emlploy NAT mode?)

What, in your view, is the benefit of using 1-4-16, rather than the plain 13 IPs out of just the one ADSL router? I can see one benefit, that the first router (having /30 routing block), has all the safety features eg firewall etc, and the second router with /28 block is then free to do the job, and perhaps easier to configure and maintain. Any other benefits? Cheers
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 25-Jul-06 19:45:43
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[re: nmemon] [link to this post]
 
You don't have to have a 1-4-16/32, you can have a 1-16/32 if you like.

However, if you have a hardware firewall that doesn't work on layer-2, then you really need to the /30 and use it as 1-4-16/32

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