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Standard User Whome22
(newbie) Thu 18-Dec-08 23:29:25
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Bt Fibre To Home Trail


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Just wondering, has anybody on here know or taking part of the Bt trails at EbbsFleet i belive for the fibre to home service that was going on? Because im always on there site looking for updates about the trail hoping that they will upate it and finally say wether or not they will invest in fibre to homes anymore.
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(deleted) Fri 19-Dec-08 01:02:27
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I think the 1st premises were connected only recently.
BT will only be looking at greenfield sites for FTTH deployment.
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(deleted) Fri 19-Dec-08 22:20:53
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Re: Bt Fibre To Home Trail


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This post would be more appropriate in the BT Wholesale section of the forum, as for the trials I think they have just recently started. BT Wholesale had to get permission from Ofcom to give the tester free/reduced price service.


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Standard User Whome22
(newbie) Fri 19-Dec-08 23:37:37
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Re: Bt Fibre To Home Trail


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Soz Paul I think it might be a better place but im one of these guys who reads about trials and betas and wants them to be happening around the area I live in.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 21-Dec-08 00:20:49
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Re: Bt Fibre To Home Trail


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Your not the only one! Sadly the way the telecoms industry is/has been set-up in the UK does nothing to promote faster broadband speeds. If BT Wholesale spent millions of pounds enabling your town/city with fibre to the home, as it stands they will not be allowed to charge more than they do now. So BT have just lost millions of pounds which they see no benefit of.

BT have asked Ofcom in the past to review this and allow higher wholesale charges to reflect the investment. As far as I know Ofcom have refused. It has not got to the point where its cheaper for BT to lay fibre on new developments than run copper.
The only problem I can see with this, is this would really create a "digital divide" in the UK if BT Wholesale allowed proper use of the fibre over copper.

At the same time you have to ask yourself why CPW, Sky etc don't lay the fibre. As it stands they are in the same situation as BT.
Standard User Whome22
(newbie) Sun 21-Dec-08 14:49:47
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Ah well maybe one day and then they will sit back in their office chairs wondering why didnt we invest sooner as Sky lay cables, But mind you there was a company who was laying Fibre cables through the sewers!

Keep Dreaming!!!
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(deleted) Sun 21-Dec-08 20:52:16
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Yup H2O networks, traditionally laying cables is an expensive business, using the sewers is cheaper and much quicker. They say they can have a city enabled for fibre in hours instead of weeks.

Maybe somebody at BT will, but even if Sky start laying cables I'd imagine they would be made to allow wholesale access to it. Surprising Virgin Media haven't been subject to this already.
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(deleted) Sun 21-Dec-08 23:01:12
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Why would Sky want to lay cables when they can get access to BT's local loop assets for less than �1.50 a month?
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 22-Dec-08 05:02:00
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they pay more then that

BT may only make �1.50 profit on LLU ports but that doesnt mean you can claim thats all they pay.

As I posted on the news page, LLU is a success because of a combination BT's greed and ofcom's incompetance. BT central prices have made ipstream uncompetative.

I can think of quite a few things BT could do in deregulated areas that would give LLU a hard time. But they all involve BT losing profits so I can see none of them happening. Plus if BT were to make ipstream more competative in deregulated areas I expect the ipstream retailers would use it to subsidise villagers anyway keeping ipstream uncompetitive.
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