In reply to a post by Spikester84:

I thought the main reason Virgin don't have fibre optics further up Britain is because of money.....

Which is exactly what I said.

In reply to a post by Deadbeat:

In reply to a post by Spikester84:

I thought the main reason Virgin don't have fibre optics further up Britain is because of money.....

Which is exactly what I said.

I know, but I was just stating that I presumed BT had more money available and Government funding to make fibre optic more widely available, which is what my whole comment stated.
Steve

The Government will invite firms to tender for Regional Development money so it could be BT, Virgin, Thales etc. who get government contracts to provide fttc to unviable areas.

Although the whole RDA shebang is in turmoil at the moment due to the election and the dropping of the 50p telephone tax.

Any RDA funding is completely separate to Openreach's current fttc programme which is market driven.

Any RDA funding is completely separate to Openreach's current fttc programme which is market driven.

You are assuming that BT is a market-driven enterprise. In all too many cases, this is not the case. There is a lot of unfulfilled market demand for genuine telecom services, and many businesses or end-users are also willing to pay, yet it is BT who lacks vision and long-term business plans. BT is much more short-termed oriented, driven by its share holders.

As usual, Jeurgen, you are simply spouting rubbish.

Here is a list of exchanges that will be enabled for Infinity in the next 9 months.

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/products/nga/downloa...

Openreach's FTTC rollout is probably one of the biggest market driven private investments in the country right now.

Hopefully the shareholders will make money and BT will continue to accelerate the pace of the roll-out.

Edited by deleted (Fri 30-Apr-10 17:55:16)

In reply to a post by Spikester84:

In reply to a post by Deadbeat:

In reply to a post by Spikester84:

.... 94% of homes around Britain ready for fibre optic broadband by 2012.....

How many homes are there in say London, Birmingham and Manchester compared to the whole of Scotland? A percentage figure of UK homes is pretty meaningless.

Yeah I undertand that. But really I was wondering if they would be able to fit fibre optic cables all the way up Scotland??? Right now I think they only go as far as the Glasgow/Edinburgh, whereas I'm closer to Inverness further north. Not sure if it is even possible to get fibre optic cables up that far?

Steve

You are confused about telecomms networks. Virtually all the 5500 exchanges in the UK are linked by fibre. For broadband it's the local end from the exchange to the home that we are discussing.

In reply to a post by JNeuhoff:

I e-mailed BT and was told that they do not have dates for my area, but were hoping to get 94% of homes around Britain ready for fibre optic broadband by 2012. Would this be possible, getting that amount of homes fibre optic by 2012?

Also, there is no way that BT will get even close to their announced coverage of the FTTC.

Why is this?

I live in one of the towns that has been so called upgraded. Actually its all hype, they have not done the complete job, just enough to get the "BS" in the stats and then expect the council to give them money to do the rest. This is a fact and the situation is being closely monitored, but we still await to heat the job will be completed. When they get to your town you will find the
same. They only do the densely populated centers that get ADSL2 and if you live in the suburbs and are "Middle class" and hence not likely to pay for "footie" then forget it.

This is how we have seen the demographic roleout.

According to BT:

We're using around £1.5 billion pledged by the BT Group to bring 40% of homes in Britain within reach of Super-fast Fibre Access by 2012, as part of the Next Generation Access initiative.

This is a far cry from a 94% coverage, and hardly any of the 40% will actually use a genuine FTTP technology. Add to this the fact, that most of this targeted coverage is already being served by Virgin today with better services, and this tells you how far behind current standards BT really is.

Edited by deleted (Fri 30-Apr-10 20:55:01)

In reply to a post by JNeuhoff:

According to BT:

We're using around £1.5 billion pledged by the BT Group to bring 40% of homes in Britain within reach of Super-fast Fibre Access by 2012, as part of the Next Generation Access initiative.

This is a far cry from a 94% coverage, and hardly any of the 40% will actually use a genuine FTTP technology. Add to this the fact, that most of this targeted coverage is already being served by Virgin today with better services, and this tells you how far behind current standards BT really is.

What do you call genuine technology?

BT rollout is where the ISPs want to compete with Virgin.