In reply to a post by tourman:

I live in one of the towns that has been so called upgraded. Actually its all hype, they have not done the complete job, just enough to get the "BS" in the stats and then expect the council to give them money to do the rest. This is a fact and the situation is being closely monitored, but we still await to heat the job will be completed. When they get to your town you will find the
same. They only do the densely populated centers that get ADSL2 and if you live in the suburbs and are "Middle class" and hence not likely to pay for "footie" then forget it.

This is how we have seen the demographic roleout.

Where I live it's roughly a 50/50 split between industrial/urban and rural. Both sectors have been served well by the rollout.

Edited by Deadbeat (Fri 30-Apr-10 23:11:37)

No problem, Jeurgen.

If you are not happy with Openreach's FTTC roll-out, you are free to choose Virgin.

That about sums it up. While I'm not saying that all Virgin media areas are in stabsville by any means, I do suspect that if the welfare state and benefits were stopped tomorrow, within a month both Sky and VM would be bankrupt.

It's good to finally see Virgin Media getting some competition at last in the broadband stakes, even though it's not a really serious, current generation solution or close, just another "it'll do another 20 years" approach, the people on the "slow" VM speeds (like 20Mbps for instance) may now get an ADSL alternative. The people on 50Mbps speeds will probably just wonder why BT are so, so far behind and not intending to even try and catch up.

it is the norm from bt, if you live in an area that has a fast connection speed already then you will get infinity first,the people who who endure 1-3 Mb connections will be last if they get it at all..Then if a newer technology is developed then the areas already with infinity will get upgraded and the rest just have to crawl along. One day my exchange may get 21cn ,but I may be to old and infirm to use it.

One day my exchange may get 21cn ,but I may be to old and infirm to use it.

According to a statement posted by BT_Care not too long ago your exchange should be upgraded to the 21CN this year. But I am certain what BT says on this is not true.

Edited by deleted (Sat 01-May-10 17:38:23)

I have never been able to get any info on upgrades for my exchange.can yuou point me in a direction to find it.

You won't find it anywhere. If http://www.samknows.com/broadband/ doesn't give the 21CN enablement date then you are out of luck. You could ask a BT representative here on this forum but I wouldn't believe them because BT has no published long-term rollout plans. In fact I am certain that by 2012 the digital divide in the UK will have significantly widened.

thanks for the info

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

Hopefully the shareholders will make money and BT will continue to accelerate the pace of the roll-out.

FT is reporting that BT are set to announce expansion of the rollout from 40% to 66% coverage.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c723ff52-5a37-11df-acdc-00...

In reply to a post by JNeuhoff:

According to BT:

We're using around £1.5 billion pledged by the BT Group to bring 40% of homes in Britain within reach of Super-fast Fibre Access by 2012, as part of the Next Generation Access initiative.

This is a far cry from a 94% coverage, and hardly any of the 40% will actually use a genuine FTTP technology. Add to this the fact, that most of this targeted coverage is already being served by Virgin today with better services, and this tells you how far behind current standards BT really is.

How much of the population does Virgin reach and what are their plans for expansion of the network to more of the population?
Is theirs a "genuine FTTP technology"? I think you'll find its not. You'll get fibre to the general area and then a coax cable to your house in most instances.