In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by Spikester84:

RobertoS

You seem to be the man who knows his broadband stuff, and have another question.....

The exchange i'm on is this one:

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/NSLOS

Now its just a small exchange, but in the last month they have added the TalkTalk LLU and when I go to there website and put in my details, they say I can get estimated 10.7mb download speed! Is that possible, since with BT I can only get a maximum 8mb's?

Steve

Load-a-rubbish .

I'd say somewhere between 15Mbps and 18Mbps connection speed.

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!!!

I'm not even on ADSL2+!!! Just [censored] ADSLmax.... and you think I will get between 15-18Mbps speeds???????

Steve

Absolutely serious, but there is one drawback.

First the good bit.

TalkTalk LLU is ADSL2+. The only reason you stop at 8128 is that's the highest ADSL Max goes.

Put those stats figures into this site but take the throughput speed with a pinch of salt. On 18Mbps connection I would expect 15Mbps download.

Also look at this graph, but use 30dB attenuation not your 27dB. Attenuation on ADSL2+ is usually about 3dB higher than on ADSL.

The big drawback is that it is full LLU, where your line ceases to be a "BT" line for other ISPs. So if you ever want to move back it often means a period of a few days with no broadband after the line is returned to BT, plus possible connection charges by your new ISP.

This isn't always the case. Plusnet can move the two together, and I expect BT can if they try really, really hard. But whether you would go to either of those if leaving TT is another question entirely.

Alternatives if you fancy the speed, but not as cheap, are xilo/uno and vivaciti which both resell Opal - which is the TT network. Monthly contract and without the P2P throttling. Both are full LLU just like TT.

Xilo don't seem to have it on their website yet. You would need to ring, or PM uno here. Vivaciti it is the Surfwise Complete. Note the setup and leaving charges.

Roberto,

Thanks for the info, may have to change to TalkTalk when my BT contract is up.

Although I don't really have a problem with BT's speed (usually between 6-7Mbps) I do have a slight problem with the pings, normally being around 50ms, which while OK, is not the best for gaming.

Do you think the ping with TalkTalk LLU would be better than BT?

Cheers

Steve

No idea sorry. Ask in the TT forum.

Re support, apparently on the phone it is poor, but their in-house forum is good, with reps.