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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 20:22:25
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Re: Email Options?


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Yes, it's the SMTP server of the hosting service I use for my website and domain email accounts. I haven't changed anything since joining BT, apart from adding the BT email account. It just works.
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(deleted) Thu 05-May-11 21:46:12
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Yes, the BT Help article here - http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14918... tells you to set the port at 25.

"Add a description if you want to, making sure that the port is set to 25."

Brian
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-May-11 23:23:27
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In reply to a post by dorsetlad:
Yes, the BT Help article here - http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14918... tells you to set the port at 25.
That article is not relevant! It is for setting up for "your BT Internet email address ([email protected])", not some other provider's email addys, as the OP requires.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-May-11 13:14:09
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More pertinent is this article: http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6999/... but it does imply that you can use your other provider's SMTP unchanged as long as you Authenticate with your BT Yahoo! Mail account username and password,

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 06-May-11 16:10:06
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Re: Email Options?


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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
More pertinent is this article: http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6999/... but it does imply that you can use your other provider's SMTP unchanged as long as you Authenticate with your BT Yahoo! Mail account username and password,

I read that and it does seem to imply what you say - but I don't see how it could work unless you are using BT's SMTP server to send email on your other accounts.

How can a third party SMTP server (as named in the "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) box) authenticate using BT logon details?

Mine are all set to "use same settings as my incoming mail server" (i.e. the logon applicable to the email account in question) and they work.
Standard User Jaggies
(committed) Fri 06-May-11 16:14:08
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Re: Email Options?


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You can use mail.btinternet.com as your SMTP server for all your email addresses, providing you verify the addresses first.

See http://www.btyahoo.com/verify

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-May-11 17:16:03
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In reply to a post by foxycat:
How can a third party SMTP server (as named in the "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) box) authenticate using BT logon details?
Yes, I agree, it does seem impossible but I thought I'd post that link as it appears appropriate to this topic and claims that's the way to do it.

I did wonder whether the BT network intercedes 1st to check its own credentials and strips them out before the SMTP request is sent out into the outside Internet, but I doubt it.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 06-May-11 17:44:52
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I've just read through the BTYahoo link. It isn't quite what it seems, in three ways frown.

First, it isn't "Authentication" as we understand it. In particular, the normal email client authentication setup seems not to be affected. It is a BTYahoo "verification" routine.

Second, the whole thing seems purely to address webmail. It may or may not apply to emails sent from an email client. Unless, reading rapidly, I missed something to do with that.

Third,
You will now be able to send or receive email from the newly verified email account; you'll see the option to choose which email address to send emails from when you compose a new email.
When you check for new emails, all email accounts that have been verified will be checked and the emails delivered to your BT Yahoo! Mail account.
Typical BT Yahoo complication which many years ago was the reason I determined when getting broadband and email at home never to go anywhere near the BT Broadband service. I shall never forget the hidden takeovers in seemingly innocent "Click here to improve your BT Broadband experience" type banners, and finding Yahoo and its garbage, (in those days that was emphatically what it was), had been installed completely screwing up both my email and Explorer Home Page setups, plus adding infuriating irrelevant-to-my-needs toolbars.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-May-11 20:05:47
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
I've just read through the BTYahoo link. It isn't quite what it seems, in three ways frown.
I can't agree with any of your 3 ways. Perhaps there is evidence you have confused 2 links frown

Ist: Authentication vs. verification = pure semantics! It is an instruction to
Place a tick in the standard "My server requires authentication" box
of an email client. It may very well be that the BT network itself is interceding as I suggest in my previous post.

2nd: How can it be addressing Webmail when all it is dealing with is email clients and Outgoing SMTP Servers? I recollect you illustrated a similar confusion between Webmail when talking about email servers and port 25 SMTP in an earlier PM.

3rd: I don't know where you got that quote:
You will now be able to send or receive email from ...
but there's nothing wrong with it; it describes the normal operation of any email client. That quote isn't in my linked article or any others linked here.

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(deleted) Fri 06-May-11 20:19:43
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
I did wonder whether the BT network intercedes 1st to check its own credentials and strips them out before the SMTP request is sent out into the outside Internet, but I doubt it.

It would need to have a way to get the correct credentials to pass to the third party SMTP server, which requires authentication....
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