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Shame, any new BT Infinity subscriber is a bit stuck if they want to use a different device. Similar situation as Virgin Media found themselves in when they launched an all-in-one device.

Hopefully Openreach can sort out a certification scheme for VDSL modems - bring back the BABT approvals green circle

When ordering Infinity don't you have the option of saying "no router required" and would therefore be supplied with the OR modem to use with whatever hardware suits you?

As an alternative approach, ask for the HH5 to be connected via the WAN socket which would then require the OR modem to be supplied.

Thoughts anyone on this.

Both versions of the OR modem seem to be available brand new on ebay for around £20 (Got one myself as a backup) so anyone desperately wanting to use their own router could go that, err, route.

John.

I would be happy to accept that premise but is it truly a case of 'plug and go'? Let's hear from someone who has got one of these purchased routers and placed it in service please.

It's not a patch on my DG834GT on my line so it's gone back in the box.

Don't think the chipset is great on long lines at all.

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Both versions of the OR modem seem to be available brand new on ebay for around £20 (Got one myself as a backup) so anyone desperately wanting to use their own router could go that, err, route.

John.

I would be happy to accept that premise but is it truly a case of 'plug and go'? Let's hear from someone who has got one of these purchased routers and placed it in service please.

They are modems, not routers.

Many, many posters on these forums use the Huawei modem including myself.

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Both versions of the OR modem seem to be available brand new on ebay for around £20 (Got one myself as a backup) so anyone desperately wanting to use their own router could go that, err, route.

John.

I would be happy to accept that premise but is it truly a case of 'plug and go'? Let's hear from someone who has got one of these purchased routers and placed it in service please.

They are modems, not routers.

Many, many posters on these forums use the Huawei modem including myself.

O dear, I have the internet police on my back! OK I made a typo and for router please read modem. And yes, I accept that Huawei modem is widely used but I was asking if such a router not supplied by OR can indeed be brought into service. That question has not been answered.

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O dear, I have the internet police on my back! OK I made a typo and for router please read modem. And yes, I accept that Huawei modem is widely used but I was asking if such a router not supplied by OR can indeed be brought into service. That question has not been answered.

The reason for correcting the misuse of the device name was to ensure that you were talking about the OR modem.

If you are actually talking about a router to connect to the OR modem then that is even more common.

Only BT Retail suppl;y the HH. all other ISPs use their own routers.

Many, many posters in these forums use their own supplied routers with the OR modem. I am one. They do work.

If you mean a modem other than the OR supplied ECI or Huawei modem or the BT Retail supplied HH5 modem/router then the answer is again yes. Not many VDSL modems are available on the market. Draytek do one and I believe that certain fritzboxes will do as well but this isnt really a plug and pray(sic) option.

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In reply to a post by trolleybus:

O dear, I have the internet police on my back! OK I made a typo and for router please read modem. And yes, I accept that Huawei modem is widely used but I was asking if such a router not supplied by OR can indeed be brought into service. That question has not been answered.

The reason for correcting the misuse of the device name was to ensure that you were talking about the OR modem.

If you are actually talking about a router to connect to the OR modem then that is even more common.

Only BT Retail suppl;y the HH. all other ISPs use their own routers.

Many, many posters in these forums use their own supplied routers with the OR modem. I am one. They do work.

If you mean a modem other than the OR supplied ECI or Huawei modem or the BT Retail supplied HH5 modem/router then the answer is again yes. Not many VDSL modems are available on the market. Draytek do one and I believe that certain fritzboxes will do as well but this isnt really a plug and pray(sic) option.

Let's just simply say this. On installation the HH5 is used without an OR modem on a FTTC service. Later you decide that you want to use your own router because it contains features that the HH5 doesn't support. So you get your own desired router and also nip onto eBay to pick up an OR modem for twenty quid or so. Will your privately sourced OR modem provide a service to the WAN socket of the new router? Theory is one thing but has anyone actually got that set up to work?

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Will your privately sourced OR modem provide a service to the WAN socket of the new router? Theory is one thing but has anyone actually got that set up to work?

There's no doubt the OR modem will serve a random PPPoE router or indeed computer via its WAN port. As said above "Many, many posters in these forums use their own supplied routers with the OR modem. I am one. They do work."

Does the HH5 have an ethernet WAN port or just an RJ11 for the phone line ?

OK, hopefully the HH5 gives more VDSL stats than the HH4 does ADSL The HH4 almost looks like it was designed for Infinity with ADSL as an afterthought.

Testing it later on my line....

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Will your privately sourced OR modem provide a service to the WAN socket of the new router? Theory is one thing but has anyone actually got that set up to work?

There's no doubt the OR modem will serve a random PPPoE router or indeed computer via its WAN port. As said above "Many, many posters in these forums use their own supplied routers with the OR modem. I am one. They do work."

Does the HH5 have an ethernet WAN port or just an RJ11 for the phone line ?

Yes the HH5 does have a WAN and DSL port.

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Yes the HH5 does have a WAN and DSL port.

Without an Ethernet WAN port, the HH5 would be unable to connect to an FTTP ONT.