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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sat 09-Nov-13 08:53:57
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Re: Is the HH4 a POS ?


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I think the change for the 4 was the WiFi as you say, and the 5 was the same as the 4 but with the internal VDSL modem.

Home Hub 5 also supports 802.11ac.


Interesting! I guess with such a quick revision that BT's supplier had not expected to get AC ready so fast.

The benefits of AC are unclear to me, its improving the 5GHz band to go faster, but my experience of 5GHz is that its useful to avoid congested 2.4, but it doesn't travel very far around the home compared to 2.4.

Has anyone any real life AC experience to talk about?


yeah I have got over 400mbit throughput on it. using the BT AC dongle and hh5. I hit the cap of the usb2 port.

By the way if you use things like smartphones 5GHZ I learnt is very useful. All my android phones forcefully only use 20MHZ wide band on 2.4ghz (probably to be polite) so on 5ghz they get doubled speeds. I think more and more vendors are starting to not allow.

BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - BQM

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 09-Nov-13 10:23:54
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Re: Is the HH4 a POS ?


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yeah I have got over 400mbit throughput on it. using the BT AC dongle and hh5. I hit the cap of the usb2 port.

Great news!

By the way if you use things like smartphones 5GHZ I learnt is very useful. All my android phones forcefully only use 20MHZ wide band on 2.4ghz (probably to be polite) so on 5ghz they get doubled speeds. I think more and more vendors are starting to not allow.

I know this was the case with apple kit, all their laptops, desktops and phones/tablets only do 20mhz at 2.4GHz - but I didn't know other makes were doing this too.

Its a good idea, anything to stop the default "out of the box" configuration of these cheap 2.4GHz N routers being set to 40mhz mode. For people who have only a max of 15 Mbps broadband and no home devices its pointless :-/

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6 - Getting 46/8 - Sync 50 / 9 Mbps @ 470m approx
14 years of broadband (ntl: cable to BT FTTC) - Router: Asus RT-N66U - Modem: Huawei HG612 speedtest
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 09-Nov-13 15:22:26
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Re: Is the HH4 a POS ?


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and I don't think even that should yet be being fitted stand-alone by OR contractors.

Well I've found two sitting waiting for me on installs in the last two weeks, I don't do many FTTC installs, so it can't just be me that's seeing them. smile
But did you install them stand-alone, or with the modem? If stand-alone, is that officially OK?

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.2/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Sat 09-Nov-13 20:47:34
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Re: Is the HH4 a POS ?


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I think the change for the 4 was the WiFi as you say, and the 5 was the same as the 4 but with the internal VDSL modem.

Home Hub 5 also supports 802.11ac.


And gigabit LAN on more than 1 port.

The HH5 was one reason I decided to leave sky. Their router is rather basic.

Kris

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 09-Nov-13 21:41:12
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Re: Is the HH4 a POS ?


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The HH5 was one reason I decided to leave sky. Their router is rather basic.


Understood - BT charged me P&P for a HH3 that has been used for 10mnutes. Its rubbish too At least with BT, I can plug in a decent router such as my Asus RT-N66U easily. Sky make that deliberately hard today.

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6 - Getting 46/8 - Sync 50 / 9 Mbps @ 470m approx
14 years of broadband (ntl: cable to BT FTTC) - Router: Asus RT-N66U - Modem: Huawei HG612 speedtest
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sun 10-Nov-13 14:00:27
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Yep, that's what our brief states, if they've got a 5, just fit that.

Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Sun 10-Nov-13 14:20:34
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Yep, that's what our brief states, if they've got a 5, just fit that.


On an up to 30 metre vdsl extension also?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 10-Nov-13 22:49:31
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That's good smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.2/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 11-Nov-13 10:00:02
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Re: Is the HH4 a POS ?


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there aren't really any "settings" of note, at least not via publically displayed pages. I just clocked the above in a log, perhaps its the TR-069 auto-config in action or something.

Seems the HH4 doesn't like my family, daughter got one for Infinity that was DOA and the Openreach tech got an older version off his van to get her connected.

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Phil

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