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Edited by ian72 (Thu 08-May-14 14:17:23)

Very small black box. I think it is known as an External Telephone Junction Box BT16A Black.

Keith

I owe you an apology.

I got in a complete tangle over the "After tomorrow night things will be largely sorted". Which I did say. It amounts of course to what the booklet says.

Unlike what BT support normally say and BT Wholesale claim.

In which case I think you might have a star-wired duff installation. Probably with two master sockets. Is the original NTE5 present as well as the new one?

(Edit - Unless the FTTC is a separate line/number).

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 08-May-14 13:11:28)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In which case I think you might have a star-wired duff installation. Probably with two master sockets. Is the original NTE5 present as well as the new one?

(Edit - Unless the FTTC is a separate line/number).

I only have one telephone line. It looks to me as though I have 2 master sockets. The original on the star wiring which is not NTE5 but previous version believed called a line jack with capacitors in it. Small square white box. Then the new large NTE5 which is in three parts.

Keith

Was it an Openreach engineer, (who I believe could with a bit lot of jiggery-pokery wire like that and have it sort of OK), or a Kelly's/Quinn's who I very much doubt will have done that?

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 08-May-14 15:28:22)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Was it an Openreach engineer, (who I believe could with a bit lot of jiggery-pokery wire like that and have it sort of OK), or a Kelly's/Quinn's who I very much doubt will have done that?

It was not Openreach but one of the contractors. The other thing that I am thinking about now is that he told me to remove all the filters because they were no longer required.

Keith

Well.... It's possible.

The jiggery-pokery I referred to would be something like:

- divert the incoming wire/pair to the new NTE5/VDSL socket;
- feed a filtered pair back to the black box;
- connected the existing house wiring to that pair;
- preferably remove the "works/capacitor/whatever" of the pre-existing NTE5, in effect turning it into a normal extension socket.

Maybe that's what he did. If he's done it right, removing the new ADSL faceplate from the VDSL filter, (leaving that in place), should stop the pre-existing extensions working for phone.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 08-May-14 15:39:53)

No, he did not do that, that is what I would call back wiring. Just checked original master socket it still has capacitors etc in it.

The other question is do I need filters now?

I would say that as it stands the connection is robust, giving a constant 40 and 11.

Keith

Remove the new faceplate where your VDSL socket is, as I said.

All phone extensions should stop working. Barring perhaps one in the same room as the VDSL master. If they don't, I believe you have a bridge tap. (Extensions connected before the master/filter).

Another test, without removing the faceplate, would be to take the modem/HH to one of the downstairs sockets and plug it in. See if it syncs with the exchange, possibly also getting full broadband if you have the HH there.

If you do, anything normally into those sockets needs filtering, whether or not you get the wiring sorted.