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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 06-Jun-21 10:54:48
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Re: FTTP Install - Practical details of install


[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
Flat patch lead will NEVER meet Car5e (or above) spec, it will be susceptible to noise and crosstalk. Under a carpet, it will ssoon be damaged and fail.

What the man said ..

Standard User Mattyspence78
(newbie) Fri 16-Jul-21 17:08:37
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Re: FTTP Install - Practical details of install


[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
Hi, I am new to this site/ forum and came hear specifically hoping to get an answer to this. I have just ordered BT FTTP as I live on a remote farm and they seem to be the only provider who could do this giving me a decent set up and speed etc.

However my question is how they will run anything to my premises as it is very remote and the box which anything was originally ran from I e. The old phone line is a long long way from the property on the other side of the farm and everything will have been routed underground originally?

Any thoughts or suggestions.... thanks
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 16-Jul-21 17:30:43
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Re: FTTP Install - Practical details of install


[re: Mattyspence78] [link to this post]
 
If you can order BT FTTP then Openreach must have installed FTTP network infrastructure (e.g Fibre cables and connection blocks) near to your remote farm for you to be able to order it.

If you enter your address on the BT Checker Here what does its say half way down on the line that starts Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:-


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Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Fri 16-Jul-21 17:35:10
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[re: Mattyspence78] [link to this post]
 
If the current line comes underground via ducting then the fibre will likely take the same route.

The fact you have been able to make an FTTP order with BT means OpenReach already have the fibre Distribution Point (known as a CBT) in place at your nearest telegraph pole or underground chamber.
At this point you don't need to do anything except pick where you would like your ONT to go.

OpenReach will come out and survey the property to decide how they are getting the fibre from the CBT to your property.
You shouldn't need to do anything.

If you enter your address in to the BT Broadband Availability Checker sometimes it tells you the method they will use, sometimes not.

Enter your address here: https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL

Look for the part that says

Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:


If your property has already been surveyed the next sentence may tell you what they are going to do.

Edit: dect beat me to it. Follow their advice.

Edited by j0hn83 (Fri 16-Jul-21 17:35:55)

Standard User mamoulian666
(newbie) Wed 11-Aug-21 15:22:03
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[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
My FTTP install process says 1 Stage, the pole has the fibre connection block (?) fitted to it, but AFAIK no fibre cable has yet been strung between my roof and the pole.

Whilst I have an engineer install date next week I was told that another engineer may come round before that to do a survey, but that they wouldn't need to come in so I have not been told a date for that.

Which engineer will string the cable between my roof and the pole? If the first 'survey' visit is where they connect pole to roof then will they just do that without knocking? I don't want it to come to the same bit of roof as the current copper one as it has a long convoluted journey inside to get to a power socket, I have a much easier/shorter route for it in mind.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 11-Aug-21 15:54:17
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[re: mamoulian666] [link to this post]
 
The installing engineer (on the appointment date you’ve been given) should be the one to run in the overhead fibre.

The earlier non-appointed task will be to check for issues, like line of site (are there trees in the way) are there joint user or D poles involved. They also ought to be checking your allocated port on the CBT (fibre DP block on the pole) has a good light reading to it, ready for service. These visits *sometimes* put the fibre span up, and fit the CSP to make life easier for the final install.

If you REALLY don’t want it spanned to your existing dropwire fixing in your absence, why not leave a polite note attached to your door ?

Standard User mamoulian666
(newbie) Wed 11-Aug-21 16:21:11
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[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
Thanks!

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
These visits *sometimes* put the fibre span up, and fit the CSP to make life easier for the final install.


Ah, that's what I'm worried about. My ISP (TalkTalk) can't tell me anything about the earlier non-appointment. Is there any way to find out via OpenReach?

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
If you REALLY don’t want it spanned to your existing dropwire fixing in your absence, why not leave a polite note attached to your door ?


I don't think I nor the second engineer want it at the existing fixing. It loops around the hall along a picture rail through cupboards, existing cable was painted years ago, the only mains socket is in a central/visible place. Would be nicer to hide the ONT + cabling behind the telly where there are mains and cat6 waiting, by an outside wall facing the pole.

The note may be the best option smile I don't know if they'd get as far as the front door as they're not coming in and it's somewhat hidden by a storm porch - but I could stick it on a window by the current fix point...
Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Wed 11-Aug-21 23:19:07
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[re: busterboy] [link to this post]
 
I have yet to have my FTTP installed. I am currently on FTTC and very pleased with it.

However, we have to move on.

My question relates to the drop wire from the pole to the house which currently goes through trees which grown up around it.

I would like the drop wire for the fibre to go to a different part of the house - no trees.

Will Openreach install a second drop wire whilst leaving the first active? Both will pass over my neighbour's garden with the new one going closer to their house.



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Standard User busterboy
(experienced) Thu 12-Aug-21 00:15:13
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[re: Sandgrounder] [link to this post]
 
My install followed the original copper cable into my premises which suited me fine but the guy who did the install said he could feed it to any corner or wall on my house.
Of course different engineers / installers may have a different attitude to the decent bloke who installed mine.

Tea and biscuits works a treat. cool

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Standard User criostoir
(newbie) Fri 27-Aug-21 08:25:34
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[re: tallseabird] [link to this post]
 
I'm in Exeter and last week I had FTTP installed. There is a metal post outside the property which the Openreach engineer is unable to climb so a BT cherry picker was called in. It dropped the fibre line from the top of the pole to the bottom where the engineer could stretch it to the house where the cherry picker was used once again to drop the line from above to my flat which is on the ground floor. The whole exercise took a couple of hours because the cherry picker was already in the neighbourhood.
All in all, an impressive installation and I'm please with the speeds I'm getting. https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/16300488116...

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