New modem Recommendation

Hi all i am on ECI cab and looking for a new modem/router
Cash is no object!

What is best router to have What i need is

A setting to allow forward an external ip address to my server.

Like a ip address whitest also good fast wifi ac will also bee needed/

I was looking at the FRITZ!Box 7490 router but don't know as it doesn't have antennas.
Was also looking as the asuse routers best don't know know if its got the firewall settings i need for allowing external ip addresses access to my server.


Any recommendation? It can be PPPOE router or a vdsl router as i have a billion to act as a modem if need be but i would prefer a paired modem for my ECI

I am on a ECI cab so would like to get a modem that works best with my cab.

Anyone know if the FRITZ!Box 7490 has the settings i need?

Edited by deleted (Tue 03-May-16 20:41:12)

By POE do you mean a bridging modem i.e. PPPoE or do you mean Power Over Ethernet?

The question is do you need the router to do NAT for some machines, and forward the external IP to your service too? One presumes you have a block of static IP addresses for this, though simple port forwarding is sufficient for many server applications.

If spending around £200 on a router, unless it has a 'replace due to death by lightning' warranty then I'd favour a sacrificial VDSL2 modem placed in front of it. This also widens your range of routers to choose from and could go all the way up to £400 for the best WiFi ones.

Yes PPPOE sorry Not POE lol
been installing CCTV cameras so had POE in my head!

I edited the Post thanks for the heads up..Made me feel like a Diddy!!!!

All i need is a way to allow some external addresses to access my voip/cctv server.

i have a billion 8800axl that can be used as a Modem via PPPOE so i could go that way
The reason i have been thinking of a new Modem is that the bilion has some UAS/and some other errors and thinking that getting a new modem with a chipset that works better on ECI cabs may give be a better connection....

If money is not an object then go for the arguably the best vdsl modem/router around - the Netgear D7800. It uses the latest Lantiq vdsl chipset (so ideal for those on ECI cabs) and uses blazing fast 4x4 stream Mu-Mimo wifi.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01560JKAE/ref=mp_s...

Edited by deleted (Tue 03-May-16 20:09:35)

will look into that

Had a r8000 model but had a bug on the wifi that caused the speed to drop until cliants could no longer connect. took it back to currys for a refund
It also didn't allow me to forward external ip address like what i need.

Think i am going for the ASUS RT-AC3200
I like the UI and may be changing to cable at some point so will same me getting new router,

Thanks all for the Help i will keep you all updated!

Edit:

Drat Looks like this one is out looking at the demo it doant allow me to do what i want!

Edited by deleted (Tue 03-May-16 21:56:14)

Forwarding your sole external IP while also doing NAT on the same IP is a pretty odd requirement.

@MrSaffron



What i want be able to do is allow only some people access to my server.
that's what i men't by external ip. not my own ip but users on the internet.
Sorry if you miss understood...

I have a cctv server and a voip/asterisk server i would like to lock then down and only allow access to only some ip's i am not sure what routers allow this so i am looking for some information from anyone who maybe knows..

my old billion 7800n allowed this via packet filters my currant router the 8800axl only allows this for inbound connections....


I have found the billion 8900ax-2400 i may go for that one ....unless someone can recomend something better

Edited by deleted (Wed 04-May-16 02:53:07)

If you only have one public IP then what you need to do is forward specific ports to the device - so assuming it has a web interface you might forward just port 80 and port 443 - it also makes it much more secure as if there are any vulnerabilities in the OS of the device then the ports being closed would significantly reduce the risk. It should only be necessary to do it for inbound connections - unless you want to actually restrict the device from doing outbound connections?

With the new description sounds like port forwarding with the ability to restrict access to certain external IP addresses.

@MrSaffron Yes that's it i want to port foreword but only allow one external ip my sip provider and my other house that has a static ip the problem with normal port forwarding is it opens the port up to everyone this is ok for likes of a web server. but for my server it allows sip scanners other security risks so only allowing access from certain ip's is the only option.
this helps lock down the server and port scanners cant see any service running that is what i am looking to do as Sip voip is not very secure if the port is open......


I am still looking AsusWRT routers don't allow you to port forward from external ip's only Local.

It used to be common to have this option even some of the older cheap TP-LINKS used to allow it but lots of the high end routers don't have this option..

Netgear r8000 also didn't have the option....

The FrizBox i am going to have a look at looks like a nice router but not sure about the wifi performance and i would need the UK model would like to find a source in the uk...some Amazon sellers have it but some buyers are saying its no good for the uk as its for the German market

The new billion 8900 2100 is a good option but its like gold dust...

I have went for a trial of the NETGEAR - Nighthawk D7800-100UKS
Got it from pcworld so should be able to return it ii it's not up to scratch

I will post a little review of the router once i get my hands on it

Edited by deleted (Wed 04-May-16 15:32:21)

In reply to a post by jimgb17:

I have went for a trial of the NETGEAR - Nighthawk D7800-100UKS
Got it from pcworld so should be able to return it ii it's not up to scratch

I will post a little review of the router once i get my hands on it

Good choice, you won't regret it

Going by the manual you can do this on the 8800AXL.

You can create an "Exceptional group rule" where you define a group that contains the IP source addresses that you will allow. Then setup a virtual server rule that allows the specific ports for the "exceptional group".

Page 172/173 of the user manual that you can download from the www.billion.uk.com website for the router.

Edited by ian72 (Wed 04-May-16 16:30:31)

My Wifi on my 8800axl is on its way out speed drops away down to 14mbs then i cant connect wifi locks up device it just out of warranty so i am out of luck

i loved the billion would love the new 8900 2100 but's its out of stock everywhere..

Need a new router fast my 8890 will be dead soon its running really hot And i am getting
345300 HEC in 8 hrs thats a lott DLM has already kicked me down to
B0 Line Rate - Upstream (Kbps) 19230
B0 Line Rate - Downstream (Kbps) 68999

stats

xDSL
Mode VDSL2
Traffic Type PTM
Status Up
Link Power State L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 6.3 6.0
Attenuation (dB) 17.6 0.0
Output Power (dBm) 13.5 6.8
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 82644 19286
Rate (Kbps) 68999 19230
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 51 238
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword) 1 1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame) 64 63
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword) 12 16
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans) 0.0240 0.3957
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol) 21352 5156
D (interleaver depth) 1351 1
I (interleaver block size in bytes) 64 255
N (RS codeword size) 64 255
Delay (msec) 8 0
INP (DMT symbol) 3.00 0.00
OH Frames 60344578 14782229
OH Frame Errors 116 5
RS Words 2563145503 3717380
RS Correctable Errors 533517 75
RS Uncorrectable Errors 1762 0
HEC Errors 4535378 6456304
OCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
Total Cells 3746352552 0
Data Cells 18384631 0
Bit Errors 46300 46300
Total ES 45236564 456432
Total SES 53564 56356
Total UAS 563428 563428

I don't believe the stats are a fault on on my line my other bt modem stats look good!
as soon as i connect my billion back up the errors come in straight away..
above is after 8 hrs!

STATS LOOK STRANGE TO ME!
Look at the error stats!

something is weird

the router is also running HOT!

In reply to a post by jimgb17:

The FrizBox i am going to have a look at looks like a nice router but not sure about the wifi performance and i would need the UK model would like to find a source in the uk...some Amazon sellers have it but some buyers are saying its no good for the uk as its for the German market.

The main Fritzbox site is here.

There's a list of Fritz dealers here:

I have a feeling that DSL Source may be the only UK dealer still advertising FritzBox on its website. Whilst the Fritz appears to have some good features it is something of a niche market in the UK.

Incidentally the 7490 does have WiFi antennas - they're the spaceship fins on the top of the device.

Edited by Tacitus (Wed 04-May-16 18:57:18)

I have a feeling that DSL Source may be the only UK dealer still advertising FritzBox on its website

Both Broadband Buyer (9 devices) and CCL (6 devices) have various model Fritz!Box products on their web sites however CCL appears only to carry ADSL rather than VDSL products with most of those shown as out of stock.

Thanks have Bookmarked that...

If the Netgear doesn't work out then that's my next trial......

Unless the billion 8900 comes back into stock...

In reply to a post by jimgb17:

Thanks have Bookmarked that...

If the Netgear doesn't work out then that's my next trial......

Unless the billion 8900 comes back into stock...

the 8900 is in stock if this was what you were after
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BIPAC-8900AX-2400-Wireless-...

OMG That price!

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/products/25004-billi...

Mutch cheaper for the same device Just shose that amazone isnt always cheaper!

today broadbandbuyer had 0 in stock damn it!!!!

at least if the netgear doesn't work out i can go for one!!!! If its still in stock!

Amazon appear not to be stocking themselves so it is down to Amazon Marketplace and suppliers on that can be very expensive, especially where things are in short supply.

In reply to a post by MCM:

Both Broadband Buyer (9 devices) and CCL (6 devices) have various model Fritz!Box products on their web sites however CCL appears only to carry ADSL rather than VDSL products with most of those shown as out of stock.

I was referring in my post to those dealers listed on the AVM site. However I did check Broadband Buyer and couldn't find any Fritz products at all, so I'm not sure what I was doing wrong.

If BB are carrying them - and I don't doubt what you say, it's just that I couldn't find them - all to the good since Fritzbox with built in DECT is probably the model for future UK home routers once domestic VoIP goes mainstream.

In reply to a post by jimgb17:

OMG That price!

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/products/25004-billi...

Mutch cheaper for the same device Just shose that amazone isnt always cheaper!

today broadbandbuyer had 0 in stock damn it!!!!

at least if the netgear doesn't work out i can go for one!!!! If its still in stock!

it is in stock now ? 26 left
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/products/25004-billi...

Love Billion Looks like am getting one!!!!!

Got my router Netgear D7800 today!
Its a nice router Wifi is Exalent!
But the interface is like it is for the Beginner not much to configure.
No trafic filter to forward from External IP...
Looks like i will be returning this router...a shame as the wifi is the Muts Nuts!!

Bt's DLM is killing me!!!!! now 6100 from 7900 It ain't fair!!!!

In reply to a post by jimgb17:

Love Billion Looks like am getting one!!!!!

Got my router Netgear D7800 today!
Its a nice router Wifi is Exalent!
But the interface is like it is for the Beginner not much to configure.
No trafic filter to forward from External IP...
Looks like i will be returning this router...a shame as the wifi is the Muts Nuts!!

Bt's DLM is killing me!!!!! now 6100 from 7900 It ain't fair!!!!

on a side note i have been testing the latest VDSL router from zyxel that has just shipped the VMG1312-B10D and although basic at £60 is performs well and runs very cool

Edited by NICK_ADSL_UK (Thu 05-May-16 20:51:53)

Before you give up on the D7800 it might be worth installing openwrt firmware, this should give you far more options compared to the stock fw.
http://www.myopenrouter.com/blog/openwrt-firmware-ne...

@baby_frogmella

Do you know if the VDSL modem is supported under OpenWRT

In reply to a post by jimgb17:

@baby_frogmella

Do you know if the VDSL modem is supported under OpenWRT

It supports DSL whether that includes VDSL2, not sure. No harm in giving it a try...
http://myopenrouter.com/download/openwrt-firmware-ne...

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

In reply to a post by jimgb17:

@baby_frogmella

Do you know if the VDSL modem is supported under OpenWRT

It supports DSL whether that includes VDSL2, not sure. No harm in giving it a try...
http://myopenrouter.com/download/openwrt-firmware-ne...

Thanks will give it a try....

I was referring in my post to those dealers listed on the AVM site.

As was I however I typed Broadband Buyer in error and meant to type Broadbandstuff where you will find 9 Fritz!Box devices listed. Apologies for that.

Edit:
Both CCL and Broadbandstuff are listed as UK dealers on the AVM site.

Edited by deleted (Fri 06-May-16 00:02:11)

In reply to a post by MCM:

I was referring in my post to those dealers listed on the AVM site.

As was I however I typed Broadband Buyer in error and meant to type Broadbandstuff where you will find 9 Fritz!Box devices listed. Apologies for that.
Edit:
Both CCL and Broadbandstuff are listed as UK dealers on the AVM site.

Thanks for that. It was a while since I was interested in getting a Fritz and I checked the full list. In the end I went for a Draytek and a separate DECT phone system.