In reply to a post by billford:

In reply to a post by Pipexer:

Draytek 2830 has a gigabit WAN port iirc.

That one seems to be 10/100 on all ports?

In reference to www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/Specifications.asp?ProductID=10743:

Physical Interfaces

LAN: 4-port 10/100 Base-TX Switch
WAN: 2-port 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet

But at least they specify the speed of the WAN port

All that Broadbandbuyer have done is changed the title from 2820 to 2830, they haven't updated the specification of the router, as the comparison at the bottom demonstrates http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor2830.html

Ah, thanks. Pipexer was right, the WAN port is gigabit.

Not a cheap router... and no mention of IPv6. Strange, the OP's requirements don't seem to be particularly onerous but I don't think any of the routers mentioned so far have met all of them

Edited by billford (Tue 31-May-11 19:57:38)

Hi BatBoy

Thank you for highlighting the spec error and apologies to everyone for the confusion we caused.

The error will be corrected later on today.

Regards
Giles

Edited by deleted (Wed 01-Jun-11 09:37:18)

Hi Bobby

Have you considered the WNDR4000 - It's a new router coming out in 2 weeks time. Supports IPv6, 3x3 on 2.4GHz.

Check out the manual for IPv6 and the other features.
ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/WNDR4000/Documenta...

I am also aware the Linksys e4200 is due to have IPv6 support in a future firmware update. But until it comes out, it's not guaranteed.

Regards
Giles

In reply to a post by BBWizard:

Hi Bobby

Have you considered the WNDR4000 - It's a new router coming out in 2 weeks time. Supports IPv6, 3x3 on 2.4GHz.

Check out the manual for IPv6 and the other features.
ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/WNDR4000/Documenta...

I am also aware the Linksys e4200 is due to have IPv6 support in a future firmware update. But until it comes out, it's not guaranteed.

Regards
Giles

Is this entirely accurate, it says in the SmallNetBuilder review that the "� Three stream N on 5 GHz band only "

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-rev...

The routing performance is actually _slower_ than its predecessors, which is slightly disappointing.

Probably fits the bill more broadly though, although my experiences with Netgear support and firmware is overwhelmingly bad. You could try to use an alternative firmware, but most of them are having trouble with supporting multi-stream at present.

That is correct, Linksys/ Netgear have chosen chipsets with 3x3 on 5GHz for the time being. I did have a 3x3 2.4GHz router in mind when replying but it didn't have confirmed IPv6 support therefore I changed at the last minute to the Netgear but accidently left the 3x3 on 2.4.

The ones I am interested in are the simultaneous 3x3 on both 2.4 & 5GHz. TP-Link�s TL-WR2843ND & TrendNet�s TEW-692GR have been announced. There are also some simultaneous dual band USB adapters and 3x3 USB adapters coming out soon too.

In reply to a post by BBWizard:

That is correct, Linksys/ Netgear have chosen chipsets with 3x3 on 5GHz for the time being. I did have a 3x3 2.4GHz router in mind when replying but it didn't have confirmed IPv6 support therefore I changed at the last minute to the Netgear but accidently left the 3x3 on 2.4.

The ones I am interested in are the simultaneous 3x3 on both 2.4 & 5GHz. TP-Link�s TL-WR2843ND & TrendNet�s TEW-692GR have been announced. There are also some simultaneous dual band USB adapters and 3x3 USB adapters coming out soon too.

It does peeve me that router manufacturers are pushing new _hardware_ to deal with issues such as IPv6 which is effectively a firmware problem (IPv6 has been available in the Linux kernel since 93 or so). Just imagine all of the waste electronics stacking up and/or being land filled, recycled somewhere because of some _software_. Urgh.

Some of the worst aspects of capitalism really.

edit:

the TEW-692GR http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-new...

Edited by deleted (Thu 02-Jun-11 16:34:36)

In reply to a post by dustofnations:

It does peeve me that router manufacturers are pushing new _hardware_ to deal with issues such as IPv6 which is effectively a firmware problem (IPv6 has been available in the Linux kernel since 93 or so). Just imagine all of the waste electronics stacking up and/or being land filled, recycled somewhere because of some _software_. Urgh.

Not to mention the incredible amount of waste due to customers leaving an ISP with a locked, useless router. EU directive time methinks.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

In reply to a post by dustofnations:

It does peeve me that router manufacturers are pushing new _hardware_ to deal with issues such as IPv6 which is effectively a firmware problem (IPv6 has been available in the Linux kernel since 93 or so). Just imagine all of the waste electronics stacking up and/or being land filled, recycled somewhere because of some _software_. Urgh.

Not to mention the incredible amount of waste due to customers leaving an ISP with a locked, useless router. EU directive time methinks.

I was having a think about your idea, and I think it could work in a way that keeps manufacturers and consumers happy (in the interim). Make it a legal obligation to allow consumers to put their own software onto the device in a simple manner. That way people could hypothetically pay for new firmware, or use some open source solution.

Sure at first most punters would keep doing it the old way and buying new hardware each time, so you might be able to get it past the industry lobbyists, but in the longer term the consumer would probably become wise - with the manufacturers probably changing tack a bit.

Just a thought really. It will probably never happen .

Yeah, sound like good ideas. Firstly, I don't think routers should be free, electrical equipment has an environmental price in terms of disposal, no reason the consumers shouldn't see this. They're becoming disposable items like supermarket carrier bags (which I also believe shouldn't be free). Secondly, all routers provided by ISPs should be unlocked and able to use on other ISPs, so that customers switching ISP do not need to get a new router (thus saving them the router fee).

This doesn't apply to the O2/BE model of giving out routers on a free lease, as they take them back at the end and (hopefully) do the right thing.