FTTC Enabled on Monday

Hi all,
MY RFS date has been changed to monday, and im wanting to move onto FTTC due to the poor connection that i receive via ADSL.
Now as i understand O2 (who i am with now)/BE have no intentions on providing FTTC at the moment?
Im looking for a cheap alternative to o2, who i have been extremely happy with in general, (at the moment paying about £13).
Having had a look at some of the options available on this forum, it seems ADSL24 maybe the cheapest for what you get?
Ie i can get 30gb peak, unlimited off peak for £27.90 a month,
i know there is always the option of BT, but as a company i hate them, and their stupid throttling.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

That depends exactly what you get, in terms of reliable throughput. There has to be a reason for low prices - I suspect the unlimited period may get congested.

depends on what you use the connection for as 30gb really isnt that much, and the unlimited part is only 12pm-8am so only 1 third of the day, which is only 1 gig per day, on a 40mb line that isnt going to last long, whereas bt do throttle but only on things you shouldnt be doing like peer to peer d/l's, and its obvious you wont be doing that when your looking at a 30gb package, and bt have a fair usage policy of 300 gb so 10 times as much for l £2 less money, bit of a no brainer really, im sure bt have priced other companys out of the game because no isp that i have seen so far can compete on price/usage.

I do actually do quite a bit of P2P, however most of this is done during the night, so really 1gb a day is plenty for gaming, and browsing the web, especially when i work during the day anyway!

In reply to a post by nalla:

no isp that i have seen so far can compete on price/usage.

Good job large amounts of internet users also consider other factors when deciding broadband then. It's certainly not all about price and usage.

You dont price match do you haha
Also your off peak, is that unlimited?
Thanks

In reply to a post by eddie1150:

You dont price match do you haha
Also your off peak, is that unlimited?
Thanks

We don't price match as everything is carefully worked out, however we don't charge a setup fee which will save you at least £50, if not more. I'm not aware of any other ISP who does free setup atm.

Our off-peak is indeed unlimited.

Indeed, quite tempted
No offers on at the moment?
And whats the usual lead time once ive placed an order?

In reply to a post by eddie1150:

Indeed, quite tempted
No offers on at the moment?
And whats the usual lead time once ive placed an order?

I would recommend contacting [email protected] with your details and any further thoughts you have. That's the only real way we can check everything and give you a full answer.

Thanks, Done.

Which router would people recommended?
Netgear Rangemax 150
Or
Netgear WNR2000

Thanks

I just got a new Buffalo Airstation Nfiniti WHR-G300Nv2 off Amazon for £23.56 delivered. Seems great so far. Just my laptop doesn't support a two-channel link so 130kbps is my best wireless connection speed.

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In reply to a post by eddie1150:

You dont price match do you haha
Also your off peak, is that unlimited?
Thanks

We don't price match as everything is carefully worked out, however we don't charge a setup fee which will save you at least £50, if not more. I'm not aware of any other ISP who does free setup atm.

Our off-peak is indeed unlimited.

BT has no setup charge. Without looking, I can tell they're cheaper than you too.

Edited by orly (Sun 20-Feb-11 02:03:09)

In reply to a post by orly:

BT has no setup charge. Without looking, I can tell they're cheaper than you too.

Not everything is about price, for everyone..

It is for me, however i would pay anything not to be with BT.... morons!

Indeed. It's best to dismiss the ignorant BT fanboys.

In reply to a post by Zadeks:

Indeed. It's best to dismiss the ignorant BT fanboys.

I accept BT Retail are good at what they do, it's just not what we do

In reply to a post by Zadeks:

Indeed. It's best to dismiss the ignorant BT fanboys.

For some reason my company INSIST on dealing with these idiots. And after a recent office move, they have hopefully seen the error of their ways! It took me 2 weeks on the phone to BT business to get them to do what they needed to do in the first place!

In reply to a post by orly:

BT has no setup charge. Without looking, I can tell they're cheaper than you too.

According to this Infinity Option 1 has a £50 setup fee, or with a Calls bundle it is £25. Only the Option 2 ones are free. All are 18-month contracts.

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In reply to a post by orly:

BT has no setup charge. Without looking, I can tell they're cheaper than you too.

According to this Infinity Option 1 has a £50 setup fee, or with a Calls bundle it is £25. Only the Option 2 ones are free. All are 18-month contracts.

But realistically...who, being sensible, is going to take a 40GB limit?

In reply to a post by orly:

But realistically...who, being sensible, is going to take a 40GB limit?

Someone who never downloads as much as 40GB, perhaps?

Which, realistically, is most people.

Actually ive always disagreed with caps, and originally was reluctant to take a cap (30gb with adsl24, 60gb with aquiss), however on thinking about it, most downloading is done nights/weekends anyway, and 60gb will be enough for the odd time during the day when i think oooh i need to download that!
So looks like aquiss will be getting my money!

In reply to a post by eddie1150:

Actually ive always disagreed with caps, and originally was reluctant to take a cap (30gb with adsl24, 60gb with aquiss), however on thinking about it, most downloading is done nights/weekends anyway, and 60gb will be enough for the odd time during the day when i think oooh i need to download that!

I've always thought that usage allowances (or caps if you prefer) are the fair solution - don't mess with the IP packets, no traffic management, but allow only so many gigabytes per month.

If VM did this, then likely be a customer, but with their existing stupid scheme I won't touch them - as I have a requirement occasionally to download a lot of data from public sites; and I wouldn't want to be given a penalty for doing so.

Anyone know how long it will take for my mac code to come from o2?
Dont see why they cant just give it over the phone like a normal ISP!

I got my O2 MAC by both text and email within 4 hours of request.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

I've always thought that usage allowances (or caps if you prefer) are the fair solution - don't mess with the IP packets, no traffic management, but allow only so many gigabytes per month.

If VM did this, then likely be a customer, but with their existing stupid scheme I won't touch them - as I have a requirement occasionally to download a lot of data from public sites; and I wouldn't want to be given a penalty for doing so.

But?

That means most of the time you are paying for an fixed allowance that you are unlikely to use. If "unlimited" were used sensibly by all, then all could do as you require, cheaper than the higher fixed allowance packages now.

Low allowance packages, say below 10GB/pm, could still be cheaper still, as even most of these would be under-utilised.

Recieved my MAC code, and order placed with Aquiss

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

But?

That means most of the time you are paying for an fixed allowance that you are unlikely to use. If "unlimited" were used sensibly by all, then all could do as you require, cheaper than the higher fixed allowance packages now.

Low allowance packages, say below 10GB/pm, could still be cheaper still, as even most of these would be under-utilised.

I don't think unlimited is sustainable as we've all seen - I guess for BE and O2's older products they take a gamble on the number of people >10mbps, compared to the industry averages. Maybe this is why they've not made any decision on FTTC yet.

Yes, many people will pay for more usage than they need; just look at the number of iPhone contracts with 500mins per month for £40/£45 that got taken out. In my 18months with O2 I used my 300mins only once, mostly I was using less than 60 mins a month. Yet I was paying for that ability. So I've jumped to a cheaper (non O2) provider on a SIM only with 100mins for £10/m.

But if mobile phones were the same as internet in the UK then we'd have calls that got interrupted for advertising. "low quality" speech calls at peak hours being sold as a necessity etc.

Others have posted long before, and I see that *usable* internet needs to be in the £20-£25/month, anything below that price has restrictions. I have no problems with these varying products - I get annoyed with providers (like VM) who _only_ have the restricted products in their portfolio.

Aquiss, can you just confirm, i have ordered today and there was no mention of install dates (there was an estimated go live on the email, but the email mentioned ADSL and not one mention of FTTC - might wanna look at that lol)
When i will know what the install date will be?
Thanks

Evening Anonymous,

As I am not sure who you are as we have nearly 20 FTTC orders today, it maybe best to reply to one of our emails in order that one of the team can address concerns.

However, contact will be made with all customers as we do a full consultation to make sure all aspects are understood to your needs, along with obtaining times and dates from you to when it's best for an install to take place.

I'd advise going with BT as they by far have the best package in my opinion. It's low cost, unlimited with a 300GB fair use policy. only downside is the contract length.

In my 18months with O2 I used my 300mins only once, mostly I was using less than 60 mins a month. Yet I was paying for that ability. So I've jumped to a cheaper (non O2) provider on a SIM only with 100mins for £10/m.

???
I pay £10pm on an O2 SIM only and get 300 minutes any network, plus unlimited calls to landlines and unlimited texts.

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 26-Feb-11 23:00:50)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I pay £10pm on an O2 SIM only and get 300 minutes any network, plus unlimited calls to landlines and unlimited texts.

Yes.... but does yours include data ? I now get 1024mb included in that £10, and the network in my area gives me 3mbps downloads. Despite being in a built up area (GU14) the signal strength on O2 3G was non existent, 2G was okay for calls but the speech quality was lower quality than analogue eTACS mobile. I moved to three, but was tempted by Vodafone.

Cheat . You didn't mention that before.

Unlimited data (as per before the newer 500MB tariff), £5.11

Phone is of course £10.22 - they haven't re-aligned the rates since the Vat rise.

But going by the forums (for BT ) a lot of people have seen they speed cut a lot
when they use more than 300 gigs

Would anyone else recommend one of the following?
http://www.amazon.co...8844945&sr=1-49 D Link DIR 615
http://www.amazon.co...8844998&sr=1-73 Buffalo
or the Netgear WNR2000
Which would you prefer to use?
Thats all my budget can stretch to at the moment, seems the wnr2000 has gone up on amazon today

Your links don't work.

so they dont!
Nevermind, i took your suggestion and went for the buffalo, so on your head be it if it isnt good ;0 aha!

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

so they dont!
Nevermind, i took your suggestion and went for the buffalo, so on your head be it if it isnt good ;0 aha!

LOL
Runs and hides.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

so they dont!
Nevermind, i took your suggestion and went for the buffalo, so on your head be it if it isnt good ;0 aha!

LOL
Runs and hides.

You better do, if it doesnt work!

Just had an email from Aquiss, my order has been cancled by BT
Why oh why, even after ive chosen to move from these idiots, do they still haunt me lol!

Don't Aquiss have any reason given by BT?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Don't Aquiss have any reason given by BT?

Spoke to Martin this morning, and strangely, no! :/
BT didnt give a reason, and they were apparently miffed themselves as to why this has happened, and now my date has been pushed back to 14th march