FTTC 250m from Cabinet

Hi,

Measured this morning - my cabinet (which is getting the FTTC cabinet built next to it as we speak) is about 250m away by road.

Cables could obviously be either shorter than that and go more as the crow flies or take a longer route, but I assume it'll be there or there abouts.

It's a newish estate so cabling should be ok you would think.

Is anyone else a similar distance away?

What kind of speed do you think I should get on Infinity?

Thanks,

Ian

250mtr would likely be the distance as the cables tend to follow the roads more then cut through peoples houses and gardens.

That said the cable may go the long way round so if there is a longer path back to the cabinate it may go that way all depends.

Anyway should be nice and fast on VDSL.

Hi,

Thanks - that's what I was hoping.

There is a main road between though so I guess where it goes to cross that.

How close to 40/10 do you think I should be able to get?

Thanks,

Ian

Do a check Here

Hi,

That just says:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 1Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 250Kbps and 2Mbps.

However on O2 Broadband i'm getting 5Mbps down, 1Mbps up on speed tests and there is no mention of Infinity even though they have started work on installing a new cabinet next to the old one!

Thanks,

Ian

Have you checked the BT Infinity site HERE



According to your test result on the BT wholesale checker your cabinet is not getting FTTC.

Yep - that says:

BT Infinity is not currently due to be rolled out in your area within the next 6 months. Register your interest and we will keep you up to date about the BT Infinity rollout.

It's very strange as they are clearly putting a new cabinet next to the current one - you can see the concrete base and the cable ducts.....that must be for FTTC when the exchange is due to be upgraded for it this month!

Thanks,

Ian

You are probably a little too early checking the wholesale site if your ground works are just starting (just need a little patience (no I'm not a Take That fan - the missus is)) .

Not sure if its already been covered in other forum posts, but someone may know timescales for when FTTC cabinet installs start for an exchange to the checker starting to show estimated FTTC results???

Just keep trying with the checkers,it will come up eventually.
Best of luck.

Try this link,it is a great resource.Robertos.

ah, cool - so it's pretty normal for work to start while the checkers still show no plans?

I asked in another forum thread and it seems to be between 1 and 3 months for the cabinet work...

Thanks,

Ian

Likely get the full line speed on the current 40/10Mbits service

Excellent! - thanks.

In reply to a post by mikecrawford80:

Not sure if its already been covered in other forum posts, but someone may know timescales for when FTTC cabinet installs start for an exchange to the checker starting to show estimated FTTC results???

The checker has been showing my estimated results for two/three months and there are no new cabinets or ground works for them.

In reply to a post by Justo:

The checker has been showing my estimated results for two/three months and there are no new cabinets or ground works for them.

Mine was the same, however when the FTTC cab was fitted to it going live was just over 11 weeks. Some people have had shorter waits and others have had to wait months.

As for your line distance id be very cautious.

My cab is 200m down a main road, stick my head out the window and its easy to see.

BTO came Tuesday to install my FTTC, It only connected at 31mb so he opened his lappy
and pulled up the map for this area.

My line goes round half the estate, and down the other end of the road outside my house to the cab.

Even if you can spit at it from your house, I wouldn't expect anything.

Numbers won't appear on the checkers until a while after all work has seemingly been completed.

Also don't assume that the cable takes the shortest route. Similarly, don't assume you're connected to the cabinet closest to you either. I'm not...mines 3x further away from me than the closest one.

I am about same distance part underground an part overhead and I get as below.

New build = nice 0.5 copper, did a punter this week who'd had to order the sub 15 product, the cable length was 1.1K, 37meg sync, no worries. Mine is 566m, and I get full 40/10.

In reply to a post by orly:

Numbers won't appear on the checkers until a while after all work has seemingly been completed.

Rubbish; my number's been on the checker for at least 6 months and the cabinet only went it at the weekend.
Our exchange is due in September.

Hi,

Thanks all!

Are those that have had it installed all happy with it?

No reliability or speed problems from BT?

Thanks,

Ian

Hi,

I have had infinity installed for around 6 weeks now. I have had a rock steady connection with a constant 36-37Mbps throughput with an upload around 6-7Mbps as tested via BT Speed Tester. I find the TBB tester gives me a very poor upload speed.

Edited by nelix01 (Thu 16-Jun-11 20:52:32)

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Hi,

Thanks all!

Are those that have had it installed all happy with it?

No reliability or speed problems from BT?

Thanks,

Ian

Ok so far here, I don't use torrents so don't care about the fact that they are throttled in peak time but do use newsgroups which aren't. 4 threads usually max my connection (4.6MB/sec).

I am around 110m from the cab (straight line) but probably around 200m cable length (following the probable route). The other possible route would be around 700m but the BT engineer thought that it followed the shorter route. I get the full 40/10.

Hmmm.

Mine is 550m of 15 year-old stuff.

I could originally sync at 40/10, but got 4% packet loss. DLM has added interleaving (which killed the packet loss), but also (and later) dropped the sync to around 36/10 (profile of 34800ish).

I wonder if I need someone to look at it. I know they had some problems with the neighbour's.

So for 6 months it's been telling you FTTC is available on your line even though the cabinet didn't even exist?

Don't think so.

You said:

"Numbers won't appear on the checkers until a while after all work has seemingly been completed."

You're wrong.

I have been getting an estimated line speed for months before our cab was installed as well, BTW doesn't seem to even have a consistant approach on how they present data.

I don't think there are any hard and fast rules when it comes to when these things appear. My exchange was originally set to be enabled in Dec 2011 before being bumped up to Sep 2011 and is now showing as Jun 2011. They installed the new cabs a while ago and the the line checker is still telling me that there are no plans to roll it out in the next six months!

How can it say FTTC is a) available and b) give the estimated speed when the infrastructure doesn't even exist yet. Basically, bugs aside, it won't and shouldn't say you can have it until you really can have it.

The logical way for it to work is how I've generally seen it working. Kit goes in, checker changes to say you can have it. Happened last year for my line. In my old street not far from where I live the cabinets only recently went in and now my mates mum (who still lives there) has had the result for her number change to show availability.

Simply doesn't make sense to say its up and running - go ahead and order when it's clearly false. Quelle surprise when you go to the ISP and they tell you you've wasted your time.

Edited by orly (Fri 17-Jun-11 01:35:59)

It uses postcode & existing cabinet location information.

Before:

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th September 2011. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 27.5Mbps and upstream line speed of 5.8Mbps.

After:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 28.2Mbps and upstream line speed of 6.6Mbps.

Not talking about postcodes. Actual phone numbers is the deal here. When you check it's either available or it isn't. Outside of abnormal conditions it won't tell you, when you supply your number, that FTTC is available to you 6 months before the cabinet even goes in the ground as Adebov says. Unless this is some magic fibre.

Edited by orly (Fri 17-Jun-11 01:40:07)

The phone number is mapped to a postcode.

The DSL checker gave me estimates eons ago - certainly more than 3 months before the cabinets turned up. That, in turn, was 2 months before the exchange was announced as live. That was 1 month before most of my local cabinets went live. And that was 3 months before my cabinet went live.

So the checker was making predictions for my line at least 9 months before I could order.

Those first checks would give me dates of December 2010, even though the published date for the exchange (at the time) was September 2010.

Those were all using my phone number in the checker.

Yep, me too so I don't think it's that rare.

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

Hmmm.

Mine is 550m of 15 year-old stuff.

I could originally sync at 40/10, but got 4% packet loss. DLM has added interleaving (which killed the packet loss), but also (and later) dropped the sync to around 36/10 (profile of 34800ish).

I wonder if I need someone to look at it. I know they had some problems with the neighbour's.

You will not get any positive response.

Mine took a dive of about 5Mb and has never recovered. Plenty of BT and TBB records to show how good it was - but no joy in getting any intervention.

In reply to a post by orly:

Not talking about postcodes. Actual phone numbers is the deal here. When you check it's either available or it isn't. Outside of abnormal conditions it won't tell you, when you supply your number, that FTTC is available to you 6 months before the cabinet even goes in the ground as Adebov says. Unless this is some magic fibre.

When I put my phone no. into the BT Wholesale checker late last year it gave the response below:

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st March 2011. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 31.6Mbps and upstream line speed of 7.5Mbps.

In November the date given changed to 31st Dec 2010 and then changed anther couple of times before going back to 31st March. The FTTC cab was not installed until the 10th January this year.

Yeah, I'm kinda expecting it to go that way. Especially as more lines get added.

I'm now going to try to leave the link up without disturbance, to see if that strategy gets anywhere...