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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Wed 29-Feb-12 20:22:35
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Sky FTTC


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Met a punter today who is getting Sky FTTC installed on the 12th of this month .......
First actual order going live I have come across.

I hope I get the conversion task, it'll be a tickle.

Standard User project_x_uk
(member) Wed 29-Feb-12 20:28:08
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Re: Sky FTTC


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lol i can see it only going one way
Standard User CurlyWhirly
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 29-Feb-12 21:24:46
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Re: Sky FTTC


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lol i can see it only going one way

What do you mean?

That it will go pear shaped ?


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Standard User acpsd775
(experienced) Wed 29-Feb-12 21:29:40
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Re: Sky FTTC


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In reply to a post by CurlyWhirly:
In reply to a post by project_x_uk:
lol i can see it only going one way

What do you mean?

That it will go pear shaped ?


Considering there not meant to be taking orders till April id think it would go a bit wrong lol

Ash

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Sky 9732kbps/ 796kbps + TalkTalk 11105kbps/1020kbps + 3UK MBB Via Samsung GS2 4157Kbps/1536Kbps
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Wed 29-Feb-12 21:31:34
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Re: Sky FTTC


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Considering there not meant to be taking orders till April id think it would go a bit wrong lol


I have a friend who's been promised to be put on the trial, that was mid Jan. He currently gets 1meg, so he's looking for anything faster smile

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
Standard User acpsd775
(experienced) Wed 29-Feb-12 21:34:09
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by acpsd775:
Considering there not meant to be taking orders till April id think it would go a bit wrong lol


I have a friend who's been promised to be put on the trial, that was mid Jan. He currently gets 1meg, so he's looking for anything faster smile


Ahh fair do's i thought the trial had come and gone last year lol

Ash

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Sky 9732kbps/ 796kbps + TalkTalk 11105kbps/1020kbps + 3UK MBB Via Samsung GS2 4157Kbps/1536Kbps
Standard User CurlyWhirly
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 29-Feb-12 21:40:32
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Re: Sky FTTC


[re: acpsd775] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by acpsd775:
In reply to a post by CurlyWhirly:
In reply to a post by project_x_uk:
lol i can see it only going one way

What do you mean?

That it will go pear shaped ?


Considering there not meant to be taking orders till April id think it would go a bit wrong lol

Oh right, I did not know that !
Standard User gazter
(newbie) Wed 29-Feb-12 21:53:34
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If Sky FTTC is as good as their regular broadband product we are in for a treat, and BT infinity is going to look distinctly second rate.
Standard User Zadeks
(committed) Wed 29-Feb-12 22:12:30
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If they drop the TV requirement...
Standard User Neken
(knowledge is power) Wed 29-Feb-12 22:20:14
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Those on Sky User who have been signed up seem happy with no problems.

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Wed 29-Feb-12 22:38:40
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If Sky FTTC is as good as their regular broadband product we are in for a treat, and BT infinity is going to look distinctly second rate.


The lack of a 10mbps upload would be a big difference IMO.

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
Standard User Justo
(regular) Thu 01-Mar-12 09:18:37
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If they drop the TV requirement...


They already have;

Sky with or without

My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User Zadeks
(committed) Thu 01-Mar-12 09:42:44
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It doesn't apply to Sky FTTC.
Standard User nogg
(newbie) Thu 01-Mar-12 12:02:55
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Standard User nogg
(newbie) Thu 01-Mar-12 12:03:49
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Standard User nogg
(newbie) Thu 01-Mar-12 12:06:07
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In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by gazter:
If Sky FTTC is as good as their regular broadband product we are in for a treat, and BT infinity is going to look distinctly second rate.


The lack of a 10mbps upload would be a big difference IMO.


Is it certain that there will not be 10Mbit upload?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 01-Mar-12 12:19:18
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When I asked 2 weeks ago they were 100% certain.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]inkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User CarrieLaw
(learned) Thu 01-Mar-12 12:31:21
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Sky rang me last week to see if I wanted to order their FTTC broadband as I had expressed interest in it in the past. I specifically asked about upload speed and was told that without a doubt it will be limited to 2 Mbps. I didn't order as I already have FTTC with Plusnet now, and I'm unsure that I want to tie my landline in with Sky anyway because of the possible downtime if I ever want to take my landline away from them in the future. So yes, they are taking orders now and I was told 5 to 7 days for installation. They offered me free line rental for a year plus free installation, and £20 per month for the service.

Edited by CarrieLaw (Thu 01-Mar-12 12:33:10)

Standard User CurlyWhirly
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 01-Mar-12 19:45:42
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If they drop the TV requirement...

I can't see them doing that as Sky are primarily a pay TV company !
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 01-Mar-12 19:59:12
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In reply to a post by gazter:
If Sky FTTC is as good as their regular broadband product we are in for a treat, and BT infinity is going to look distinctly second rate.


Uses BT network, and Sky broadband on Bt ADSL network was rubbish so I been told.

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 7 pro 64bit , laptop by ubuntu

On ADSL24 using C&W network.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 01-Mar-12 20:01:40
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Re: Sky FTTC


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In reply to a post by CurlyWhirly:
In reply to a post by Zadeks:
If they drop the TV requirement...

I can't see them doing that as Sky are primarily a pay TV company !


they did with ADSL broadband, but then they was using their own equipment so it was cheaper for them, with Fibre they will be using BT equipment so paying BT. So they need to try and get people to use their TV service to get some more money.

Eventually Sky may drop the T.v requirement.

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 7 pro 64bit , laptop by ubuntu

On ADSL24 using C&W network.
Standard User Zadeks
(committed) Thu 01-Mar-12 20:06:10
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They did with ADSL after a while.
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Thu 01-Mar-12 20:44:58
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It will use sky's network from the exchange, so it shouldn't have the same issues as Sky Connect.

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Sky Netgear DG934G
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 01-Mar-12 20:46:36
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Correct, throughput should have the same performance levels as their LLU network

5 years since creation of Openreach, and people still get confused

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Rygar1
(experienced) Thu 01-Mar-12 21:26:17
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Sky LLU ADSL2+:
BT Openreach copper from home to exchange. Sky network thereafter.

Sky FTTC:
BT Openreach copper/fibre from home to exchange. Sky network thereafter.

It should be very good.
Standard User Ribble
(member) Thu 01-Mar-12 21:37:04
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6 years!
Standard User andrewdb
(committed) Thu 01-Mar-12 21:47:41
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So if Sky FTTC is indeed using Sky equipment from the exchange presumably that means you will only be able to get Sky FTTC if Sky have a presence at your exchange (which they don't at my exchange). Or will we see two levels of service emerging again - fibre with BT equipment or fibre with a provider with equipment at BT exchanges. So again we end up with another sort of broadband divide with very different pricing no doubt.

Edited by andrewdb (Thu 01-Mar-12 21:51:22)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 01-Mar-12 22:14:55
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Just checking you are reading what I type

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User lee111s
(regular) Fri 02-Mar-12 10:59:57
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I don't think that sky will have specific equipment in the exchange, rather from the exchange the data is then handed over to either BT Wholesale (for example BT Retail custmoer) or to Sky, for their customers.
Standard User blueacid
(committed) Fri 02-Mar-12 11:48:11
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So yeah, sky will have their own equipment at the exchange.


The question is whether sky will offer fibre connect over BT Wholesale, or if the prerequisite for a sky fibre service is that their llu equipment is also present.
Standard User Rygar1
(experienced) Fri 02-Mar-12 12:16:53
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Yes I believe it will only be available where they currently have an LLU presence at the exchange. Whether they will later introduce a BT Wholesale variant and how good or bad that product will be are unknowns for now.
Standard User simon194
(learned) Fri 02-Mar-12 14:11:35
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I don't think that sky will have specific equipment in the exchange, rather from the exchange the data is then handed over to either BT Wholesale (for example BT Retail custmoer) or to Sky, for their customers.

The new ISAN's Sky have been installing to replace their old ATM gear are fibre-ready so they can use their own equipment. If you have Sky BB and the router connects using MER rather than PPPoA you are connected to one of the new ISANs.
Standard User lee111s
(regular) Fri 02-Mar-12 15:17:55
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In reply to a post by simon194:
In reply to a post by lee111s:
I don't think that sky will have specific equipment in the exchange, rather from the exchange the data is then handed over to either BT Wholesale (for example BT Retail custmoer) or to Sky, for their customers.

The new ISAN's Sky have been installing to replace their old ATM gear are fibre-ready so they can use their own equipment. If you have Sky BB and the router connects using MER rather than PPPoA you are connected to one of the new ISANs.


Learn something new every day wink
Standard User Angel_Rex
(committed) Mon 05-Mar-12 22:54:03
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http://www.speedtest.net/result/1810535572.png

Installed on the 2nd March smile

throughout about 38mb, 2mb up load atm changing to 10mb so ive been told.

very stable connection, just in 10 days training, hoping my ping goes back down from 19ms to 10ms!

synced at 39996 / 1999
Standard User lee111s
(regular) Tue 06-Mar-12 11:20:08
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There's no 10 days training with VDSL (FTTC) or ADSL for that matter.
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