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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Apr-12 08:20:40
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Typical speeds?


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My connection went live on Monday. I didn't get to see the engineer's figures but he said I was syncd at 40/10 and I doubt there's more than 500m of cable between me and the cabinet. Although the downstream looks good - 36Mb/s - the upstream seems a bit poor at 7Mb/s.

I realise there's going to be the usual overhead but the downstream overhead appears to be only 10% (which is lower than I'd expect) whereas the upstream seems to be 30%.

Are those speeds typical for a 40/10 connection?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 18-Apr-12 08:41:32
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Yes that's about normal.
Standard User kasg
(experienced) Wed 18-Apr-12 11:21:56
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You might just squeeze 8 out of it, don't think I've ever seen 9 though.

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Standard User neilll
(regular) Wed 18-Apr-12 13:18:42
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I get 37/1.7 so you're doing ok wink

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Standard User kasg
(experienced) Wed 18-Apr-12 15:00:27
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I get 37/1.7 so you're doing ok wink

But is that on a 40/2 product rather than 40/10?

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 18-Apr-12 22:45:46
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Wierd, I never noticed the drop in the middle of the speeds below. Can't take it up with IDNet as I've migrated away to Plusnet 40/2.

02/02/12 00:49 Thu 36401 Kbps 6068 Kbps
31/01/12 17:06 Tue 35457 Kbps 6061 Kbps
22/01/12 10:59 Sun 36388 Kbps 6077 Kbps
07/12/11 00:24 Wed 35688 Kbps 6007 Kbps
18/11/11 23:57 Fri 36249 Kbps 5999 Kbps
24/10/11 12:24 Mon 36377 Kbps 8316 Kbps
10/10/11 10:26 Mon 34956 Kbps 8301 Kbps
07/10/11 19:36 Fri 35228 Kbps 8309 Kbps

Before were always in the 8000s, after all in the 6000s. I wonder what happened?

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My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - Plusnet Value Fibre.

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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Apr-12 22:52:16
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I wonder what happened?


Neighbours bought FTTC ?

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 19-Apr-12 00:04:25
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Possibly. But the downstream wasn't affected, and surely we would expect some wide fluctuations.

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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Thu 19-Apr-12 08:36:46
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Possibly. But the downstream wasn't affected, and surely we would expect some wide fluctuations.
For what it's worth it's only TBB that shows that for me - I posted as much to an old thread.

Speedtest.net and speed.io both show 7 to 8Mb/s. TBB shows 5Mb/s. All testers agree on the the downstream speed now that I've switched to a wired connection on my laptop. It leads me to raise an eyebrow in the direction of the TBB tester.

Seb asked me if the other testers were multithreaded but didn't elaborate on the significance. I'll try and get a friend to help me test the upload speed using FTP from my server.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 19-Apr-12 11:39:44
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Any idea if it changed around the same dates?
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Hmmm - speedtest.net (dates converted to UK format)
06/02/2012 11:18 PM GMT 37.39 Mb/s 8.11 Mb/s 15 ms Maidenhead
22/01/2012 11:01 AM GMT 35.13 Mb/s 8.06 Mb/s 17 ms Maidenhead
07/12/2011 1:02 PM GMT 37.50 Mb/s 8.10 Mb/s 15 ms Maidenhead
07/12/2011 12:22 AM GMT 37.42 Mb/s 8.10 Mb/s 15 ms London
07/12/2011 12:21 AM GMT 37.41 Mb/s 8.10 Mb/s 15 ms London
07/12/2011 12:20 AM GMT 37.44 Mb/s 8.25 Mb/s 15 ms Newbury


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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 19-Apr-12 12:00:58)

Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Thu 19-Apr-12 13:39:53
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Any idea if it changed around the same dates?
None whatsoever as I only went live on Monday smile

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Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 19-Apr-12 23:35:46
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An upstream of 7Mbps seems a little on the low side, but it depends which speedtester you're using.

The BT speedtest result (taken a few minutes ago): -
Download speed achieved during the test was - 11 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 12 Mbps-38.72 Mbps .
Additional Information:
IP Profile for your line is - 38.72 Mbps

Upload speed achieved during the test was - 8.14Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 10 Mbps

The speed estimate for my line is 60Mbps down / 20Mbps up (I'm currently on the 40/10 product).

Clearly something is wrong this evening.
Even with a BT product, my Infinity speed has rarely dropped below around 30Mbps in speedtest results, now it's below the minimum acceptable speed of 12Mbps.

It's either you Brackley boys taking all our bandwidth (with you fibre cabinets being served from our exchange) or BT have screwed something up during the free upgrades to 80Mbps (which have been available for a week now).

I'll give it a little while before I start whining about how rubbish BT are and contemplating a switch to Sky (who have just announced a roll-out)!

Ade

vDSL2 FTTC Infinity with BT
DL Sync 40Mbps
UL Sync 10Mbps
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 19-Apr-12 23:39:11
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The BT speed tester is up the creek tonight, following some BT Wholesale problem. Giving me a few kbps, showing as 0Mbps, where 30+Mbps is showing on tbb and speedtest.net

Lots about it on Plusnet Community forum.

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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Apr-12 08:20:21
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In reply to a post by adebov:
It's either you Brackley boys taking all our bandwidth (with you fibre cabinets being served from our exchange)
Muwahahahah...er I meant 'sorry' laugh

It seemed okay to me last night but it's been a lot better since I gave up on wifi for my main machine. The upload still seems naff but only on the TBB tester. I'm trying to arrange for a friend to test my upload by pulling from my ftp server but haven't managed it yet.

I did manage a push to an FTP server in Minneapolis though and that came out at 5.5Mb/s which is what the TBB tester suggests. I'm not sure if that's good or bad though. I'd have expected the results to be a tad low for a long distance like that.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 20-Apr-12 09:45:04
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Andrue,
Did you go live with BT on Monday? If so then you should have been on the new uplift speeds of 80/20Mb. My mate went live yesterday and he's on the new speed 70/15Mb
iechyd da
Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Fri 20-Apr-12 12:25:35
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In reply to a post by paul1360:
Andrue,
Did you go live with BT on Monday? If so then you should have been on the new uplift speeds of 80/20Mb. My mate went live yesterday and he's on the new speed 70/15Mb
iechyd da
I'm with IDNet and they aren't currently offering an 80/20 product.

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Andrue Cope
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Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 20-Apr-12 17:13:09
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The BT speed tester is up the creek tonight, following some BT Wholesale problem.

It's not just the BT speedtester, the TBB one is (still) giving very low results: -

20/04/12 17:04:29
Speed Down 2507.90 Kbps ( 2.4 Mbps )
Speed Up 5125.99 Kbps ( 5 Mbps )


Either something is seriously wrong with my 40/10 connection which is (and always has been) connected at full speed and is still giving full speed downloads using multiple threads (such as Usenet) but is giving really poor web download speeds.

So much for my theory "fibre with BT will never be as slow as my 4.5Mbps BE connection, so I may as well switch" wink

This is the first time the speed has been slow enough for me to notice and to do some speed tests.

Here's my speedtest.net result (also extremely poor).

Something is very wrong somewhere.
If I didn't know better ( and of course all the pro-BT boys out there will say that's absolutely impossible as they've got the best, fastest and biggest network wink) I'd say BT have extreme bandwidth issues and are throttling traffic (as the only way for me to get full line speed is to use multiple download threads - so there's nothing wrong with the line, connection or IP profile).

Ade

vDSL2 FTTC Infinity with BT
DL Sync 40Mbps
UL Sync 10Mbps
Standard User nelix01
(committed) Sat 21-Apr-12 08:36:14
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3 tests on different testers within a couple of mins:

BTW 74.99Mbps Down and 12.89Mbps Up

Broadband Max Test

Speedtest.net
Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 21-Apr-12 08:41:30
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Which must mean there's something seriously wrong locally (rather than a "general" BT problem).
My connection always goes at full speed (and still does) using Usenet, but as soon as I try any regular internet downloads (or speedtests) my 40Mbps Infinity connection struggles to out-perform a sub-8Mbps ADSL connection.

It was OK until recently (either around the same time as BT's recent "outage" or about the same time as BT switch on the Brackley cabinets, which are served directly from our exchange, in Banbury, rather than the Brackley exchange).
Could be a coincidence or it could be there's an extreme lack of local capacity.
We'll see how my line performs on Monday (when my upgrade to 80/20 is due).

Ade

vDSL2 FTTC Infinity with BT
DL Sync 40Mbps
UL Sync 10Mbps
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