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Standard User trolleybus
(member) Wed 05-Feb-14 09:48:27
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BT Infinity 2 [domestic] with only router


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Would some kind soul provide the essential settings that are required to be entered into your own router for BT Infinity 2 on the domestic service. An Openreach modem is already there so obviously the WAN port of the privately purchased router will be used. Please don't forget to mention the MTU setting that should be used.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Feb-14 10:55:33
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PPPoE with username and password set
As for MTU leave at default and see how it goes.

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Standard User trolleybus
(member) Wed 05-Feb-14 11:15:04
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As for the username and password, I thought everyone on the domestic BT infinity service had the same logon details like [email protected]

Your response implies that is not the case. Please enlighten me what the probable format would be.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Feb-14 11:45:05
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Hi, I would think if you are using the openreach modem then a separate router you should just be able to connect the wan port of the openreach router to wan port of your router. just have it set to dhcp.
if my thinking is right you should be able to connect direct to the openreach wan port to test this.
(i.e. I would have thought openreach modem handles the login details.)
I am not sure as I have homehub 5 and this does not use the openreach modem.
regards
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Feb-14 12:00:17
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Incorrect

DHCP will not work, and the WAN port of the Openreach modem is a VDSL2 port so no use.

The Openreach modem handles the VDSL2, the authentication process is started by the router or even a directly connected PC

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Feb-14 12:02:20
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Old thread gives a discussion with someone who did not have it working but got it working.

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/4158925-pppoe...

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Feb-14 12:07:26
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In reply to a post by trolleybus:
As for the username and password, I thought everyone on the domestic BT infinity service had the same logon details like [email protected]

Your response implies that is not the case. Please enlighten me what the probable format would be.
Yes, they do. That username is all you need to get it working. Some routers insist on a password so you can user 1234, BT, secret, anything you like as a password.
Standard User trolleybus
(member) Wed 05-Feb-14 12:33:33
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Thanks for your help chaps. This thread confirms what I thought:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1230771
In use will be a Draytek 2830vN so it looks as though the username will be:
[email protected]

The MTU value can't be left to chance because Sure Signal will be connected to the router, just opening up the appropriate ports isn't enough to get that working. I think an MTU1442 will be required as well. Further feedback welcomed.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Feb-14 12:39:12
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My Suresignals work with Infinity with the default MTU

No need to open any ports, just plug and play.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Feb-14 18:03:48
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'commsguru' you are setting yourself up for a fall with a username like that smile

The Openreach modem makes the connection. The attached router supplies the PPP stuff.

Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Feb-14 18:06:16
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[email protected]

The hubs use [email protected] but it makes no difference.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Feb-14 18:53:25
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the infinity MTU should be set at 1492 this is the default for infinity
Standard User trolleybus
(member) Wed 05-Feb-14 19:30:58
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Again, thank you guys for the feedback. Just for the record the Home Hub is being replaced with a 2830Vn and the idea is to pre-configure as much as possible so that down time is to an absolute minimum.

The Sure Signal device has had many incarnations and its probable that the latest version http://www.vodafone.co.uk/our-network-and-coverage/w... has truly become "plug and play", we shall see. Seems odd that selective ports don't need to be opened for this service. Charging £100 for the hardware seems particular excessive and it will be going back if it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

The suggested MTU by 'bubblebot' is 1492, so I seem to have all the elements for a smooth transition from one router to another.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Feb-14 19:47:25
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In reply to a post by trolleybus:
Again, thank you guys for the feedback. Just for the record the Home Hub is being replaced with a 2830Vn and the idea is to pre-configure as much as possible so that down time is to an absolute minimum.

On my RT-N66U I use [email protected] and a space as the password, as it doesn't let me leave it blank.

The Sure Signal device has had many incarnations and its probable that the latest version http://www.vodafone.co.uk/our-network-and-coverage/w... has truly become "plug and play", we shall see. Seems odd that selective ports don't need to be opened for this service. Charging £100 for the hardware seems particular excessive and it will be going back if it doesn't do what it says on the tin.


I had a suresignal here for 6 weeks, when I was using a draytek 2820vn. You MIGHT have to disable the Draytek's own IPSEC VPN feature, and allow IPsec passthru before the suresignal will work. Not many routers do IPSEC VPN but the SureSignal makes an IPSEC VPN connection to Vodafone.

The suggested MTU by 'bubblebot' is 1492, so I seem to have all the elements for a smooth transition from one router to another.

That is the default MTU for most systems, and the default on the Draytek when in PPPoE mode, and on the ASUS RT-N66U when in PPPoE mode.

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6 - Getting 49/8.5 - Sync 53 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m approx
14 years of broadband (ntl: cable to BT FTTC) - Router: Asus RT-N66U - Modem: Huawei HG612 speedtest
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Feb-14 20:09:29
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I have several Suresignals including V1, V2 and V3. They all work.
It would be impossible to open ports for all of them smile
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