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Standard User epyon
(experienced) Wed 01-Apr-15 19:22:10
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FTTP "in some areas"


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I'm on the nsden exchange just noticed fttp is now enabled at the exchange

i guess this is for the EO lines?

nothing on the wholesale checker yet for me only fttc i know the likeliness of getting fttp when i already have the fttc is very low.

Any info on what cabients would serve fttp?

post is ab253xu

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Edited by epyon (Wed 01-Apr-15 21:00:55)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Apr-15 19:41:24
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Cabinets don't serve FTTP.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 01-Apr-15 20:16:03
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Correct but invaribly the fttp footprint aligns with a cabinet footprint

Will go check once dinner is eaten

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Standard User epyon
(experienced) Wed 01-Apr-15 20:52:02
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Thats not really what i ment but i wasnt sure how to word it.

mrsaffron words it a lot better.

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Edited by epyon (Wed 01-Apr-15 20:52:28)

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(deleted) Wed 01-Apr-15 20:53:50
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I think postcodes would be better. e.g. AB24 5EQ
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 01-Apr-15 21:24:18
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Ok as far as I can see no-one postcode is live with FTTP yet, there is some EO lines due to get FTTP but plan covers just 12 EO postcodes.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Apr-15 21:33:06
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Your answer is completely correct. However, in our case all of the lines that are connected to our cabinet for copper have now got FTTP as an option. So either ADSL2 via copper and /or FTTP via fibre.
Standard User PaulKirby
(committed) Thu 02-Apr-15 10:31:40
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Ok as far as I can see no-one postcode is live with FTTP yet, there is some EO lines due to get FTTP but plan covers just 12 EO postcodes.
A lot of them seem to be down to be moved over to existing or new fibre cabinets shown below:
[EO46] FTTP Planned - Phase BDUK Scot Government 14a
AB25 3TP -> P68 (FTTC)
AB25 3TU -> P68 (FTTC)
AB25 3TZ -> P68 (FTTC)
FTTC Planned (exchange ready 1st May 2014) - Phase BDUK Scot Government 13a

[EO35] FTTP Planned - Phase BDUK Scot Government 14a
AB25 3GA -> P11 (FTTC)
AB25 3SL -> P11 (FTTC)
FTTC Available from 15th May 2012 - Phase 07b 2011-2012

[EO46] FTTP Planned - Phase BDUK Scot Government 14a
AB25 3TZ -> P68 (FTTC)
FTTC Planned (exchange ready 1st May 2014) - Phase BDUK Scot Government 13a

[EO51] FTTP Planned - Phase BDUK Scot Government 14a
AB25 3UG -> P68 (FTTC)
AB25 3UZ -> P68 (FTTC)
FTTC Planned (exchange ready 1st May 2014) - Phase BDUK Scot Government 13a
Cabinet 68 seems to be down to get a bulk of the EO Lines that are also down for FTTP, not too sure what its going to end up with due to things change a lot.

Also didn't check all EO Lines and their postcodes due to loads of them.

Paul
Standard User Mark07
(learned) Thu 02-Apr-15 10:38:52
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FTTP is apparently "Enabled in some areas" on my exchange too, but I can't find any postcodes supplying it.

Can anyone see any with your fancy lookup tools laugh Exchange is NESVL

Thanks
Standard User PaulKirby
(committed) Thu 02-Apr-15 10:50:24
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In reply to a post by brightd:
Your answer is completely correct. However, in our case all of the lines that are connected to our cabinet for copper have now got FTTP as an option. So either ADSL2 via copper and /or FTTP via fibre.
Sadly its FTTC and not FTTP for the postcode (AB25 3XU) that you supplied in your original post.
Any way I did a check on all homes for that postcode and have the following:
Exchange Name: Aberdeen Denburn
Exchange Code: NSDEN
Country: Scotland

Cabinet: 83
Fibre Phase: Phase 07b 2011-2012
Fibre Information: FTTC Available from 18th March 2012
Result Count: 33

[AB25 3XU]
� Has 33 result(s) connected to Cabinet 83 with FTTC with approximate speeds around the following:
� Range A: 72.0 -> 80.0 (downstream) 20.0 -> 20.0 (upstream)
� Range B: 61.9 -> 80.0 (downstream) 12.2 -> 20.0 (upstream)

Please note that these speeds are using BT's DSL Checker and uses the lowest and highest values for that postcode and cabinet.
� Had at least 1 issue retrieving information from the BT DSL Checker.
You can either get ADSL2+ from 8.5 to 19 Mbps or FTTC, there is no mention of FTTP for that postcode on cabinet 83.

I also have the individual FTTC speeds for each of the homes for that postcode if need be.

Paul
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 02-Apr-15 10:57:06
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No FTTP live on that exchange but planned for EO lines in NE26 4QT and NE26 4QS

Of course plans are subject to change

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Standard User Mark07
(learned) Thu 02-Apr-15 11:13:52
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Cheers MrS smile
Standard User PaulKirby
(committed) Thu 02-Apr-15 13:32:28
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Also the other EO line (block 4) has been moved over to cabinet 21 postcodes shown below:
Exchange Name: Seaton Delaval
Exchange Code: NESVL

[EO3]
Fibre Information: FTTP Planned
Fibre Phase: BDUK Northumberland 13a
Postcode: NE26 4QS
Postcode: NE26 4QT

[EO4]
Fibre Information: FTTP Planned
Fibre Phase: BDUK Northumberland 13a
Postcode: NE23 7DY -> P21
Postcode: NE23 7EP -> P21
Postcode: NE23 7ER -> P21
Postcode: NE23 7ET -> P21
Postcode: NE23 7EU -> P21
Postcode: NE23 7EW -> P21
Postcode: NE23 7EY -> P21
Postcode: NE25 0DF -> P21
However for EO block3 like what Andrew has already said seems it "may" still be down for FTTP, however these can and do change, so its hard to say atm.

Paul
Standard User epyon
(experienced) Thu 02-Apr-15 16:36:14
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Thanks for all the info

wasnt sure we would see fttp here just fttc

could you check my friends post code if its not too much trouble hes on an eo line

ab1 6dy 41 dee street

thanks.

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Standard User PaulKirby
(committed) Thu 02-Apr-15 16:54:41
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Ok the postcode you said for your friend was wrong, you are missing a 1, any how here is the info I have gathered:
Exchange Name: Aberdeen Lochnagar
Exchange Code: NSLNG
Country: Scotland

Cabinet: 70
Fibre Phase: Not Available
Fibre Information: None
Result Count: 8

Cabinet: 71
Fibre Phase: Not Available
Fibre Information: None
Result Count: 14

Cabinet: 75
Fibre Phase: BDUK Scot Government 12a
Fibre Information: FTTC Available from 15th August 2014
Result Count: 1

Cabinet: EO Line
Fibre Phase: Not Available
Fibre Information: None
Result Count: 2

[AB11 6DY]
� Has 1 result(s) connected to Cabinet 75 with FTTC with approximate speeds around the following:
� Range A: 74.0 -> 80.0 (downstream) 20.0 -> 20.0 (upstream)
� Range B: 61.9 -> 80.0 (downstream) 12.2 -> 20.0 (upstream)

� Has 2 result(s) connected to an EO (Exchange Only) line with ADSLx with approximate speeds around the following:
� ADSLx (Worst): Up to 17.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 10.0 to 19.5 (downstream range)
� ADSLx (Best): Up to 17.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 10.0 to 19.5 (downstream range)

� Has 14 result(s) connected to Cabinet 71 with ADSLx with approximate speeds around the following:
� ADSLx (Worst): Up to 9.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 10.0 to 19.5 (downstream range)
� ADSLx (Best): Up to 17.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 10.0 to 19.5 (downstream range)

� Has 8 result(s) connected to Cabinet 70 with ADSLx with approximate speeds around the following:
� ADSLx (Worst): Up to 17.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 10.0 to 19.5 (downstream range)
� ADSLx (Best): Up to 17.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 10.0 to 19.5 (downstream range)

Please note that these speeds are using BT's DSL Checker and uses the lowest and highest values for that postcode and cabinet.
� Had at least 1 issue retrieving information from the BT DSL Checker.
As for it being an EO line, no its not, unless they have more than one line at that address.
Checking Home Info: ||41|DEE ST||ABERDEEN|AB11 6DY|NS|A00000027520|
ADSLx (Live:P71): Up to 17.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 10.0 to 19.5 (downstream range)
So it seems that they are on Cabinet 71

Paul
Standard User epyon
(experienced) Thu 02-Apr-15 16:59:11
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sorry yeah ab116dy

well this is what bt retail had told him when switching his connection that he couldnt get fttc and was possibly on an eo line but i guess not

thanks again.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 06-Apr-15 18:30:40
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Paul,

you appear to have more detailed info than I have been able to source so far. I represent a community with approximately 400 EO lines. Any chance you can point me at the source of the info or help me understand future plans in respect of EO lines for exchange WSJOP on postcodes beginning KA66
Standard User PaulKirby
(committed) Mon 06-Apr-15 22:59:30
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Well I use the same location as most others, plus I do check for every address on each postcode in question.
I have the following:
Exchange Name: Joppa
Exchange Code: WSJOP
Country: Scotland

Cabinet: EO LINE
Fibre Phase: Not Available
Fibre Information: Not Available
Featured Products: ADSL Max
Result Count: 515

*** Speed Test Information Removed ***

Please note that these speeds are using BT's DSL Checker and uses the lowest and highest values for that postcode and cabinet.
� Had at least 1 issue retrieving information from the BT DSL Checker.
Sadly I cannot see any EO Lines down to be moved to an existing cabinet, neither can I see any plans for new cabinets, but I may be wrong, I have been in the past, so it might be worth seeing if anyone else responds.

My guesses would be that the EO Lines "may" be moved over to cabinet 3 due to they seem to only have 24 address connected to it (unless I missing some postcodes) once moved they "may" offer FTTC.

Also your exchange doesn't support ADSL2+ so only a max speed of 8Mbps on ADSL, unless your lucky to be on Cabinets 1 or 2 they have FTTC.

Paul
Standard User connormill
(regular) Mon 13-Apr-15 17:26:10
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Standard User PaulKirby
(committed) Mon 13-Apr-15 17:59:04
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I know you deleted your reply but here is that info:
[AB25 1GS]
� Has 18 result(s) connected to Cabinet 71 with FTTC with approximate speeds around the following:
� Range A: 64.0 -> 80.0 (downstream) 20.0 -> 20.0 (upstream)
� Range B: 52.9 -> 80.0 (downstream) 12.2 -> 20.0 (upstream)
Seem that the speed is faster the lower end of the road for that postcode.
Checking Home Info: 91|STEVENSON COURT||STEVENSON STREET||ABERDEEN|AB25 1GS|NS|A00000156137|
Range A (Live:P71): 66.9 -> 80.0 (downstream) 20.0 -> 20.0 (upstream)
Range B (Live:P71): 56.9 -> 80.0 (downstream) 12.2 -> 20.0 (upstream)

Checking Home Info: 108|STEVENSON COURT||STEVENSON STREET||ABERDEEN|AB25 1GS|NS|A00000156048|
Range A (Live:P71): 64.0 -> 80.0 (downstream) 20.0 -> 20.0 (upstream)
Range B (Live:P71): 52.9 -> 79.6 (downstream) 12.2 -> 20.0 (upstream)
Oh and its FTTC, there is not FTTPod for that cabinet yet.

Paul
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(deleted) Fri 15-May-15 15:44:13
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I know i'm resurrecting an old thread but would anyone be able to check my postcode, i have been informed by digital scotland that i am on an EO line but they haven't really told me what is going to happen.

Postcode AB32 6NU
Standard User PaulKirby
(experienced) Fri 15-May-15 16:08:15
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In reply to a post by meryvn:
I know i'm resurrecting an old thread but would anyone be able to check my postcode, i have been informed by digital scotland that i am on an EO line but they haven't really told me what is going to happen.

Postcode AB32 6NU
Your connected to Exchange ABERDEEN KINGSWELLS via an EO Line.

For you to get fibre you would need either of the following to happen:
1: Be put on FTTP (saving on installing a PCP Cabinet and a fibre cabinet)
2: Have a PCP and Fibre Cabinets or an all in one cabinet installed (PCP and Fibre).

I did a quick look on that site and I cannot really find any clear info on what they are going to do for EO Lines.

Paul
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(deleted) Fri 22-May-15 00:57:20
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Hi Paul,
Can you check what's happening with the Wincanton Exchange for me?
We see green cabinets being put in around the town and new fibre being installed in the road, however our property is an EO line and wish to take advantage of FTTP as soon as it comes enabled (if indeed it will be).
Postcode BA99JY
Standard User PaulKirby
(experienced) Fri 22-May-15 01:29:42
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Well as far as I can see your exchange Wincanton (WWWINC) hasn't been upgraded to fibre yet.

However they might be upgrading it the same time as installing cabinets.

But don't quote me on that.

As for getting FTTP, that would depend on if your exchange get upgraded to support that option.

Paul
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(deleted) Fri 22-May-15 08:37:31
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I've had confirmed by the Senior Stakeholder Manager at Digital Scotland that the contract does not permit BT to use BDUK money to install FTTP. Its FTTC only.
If FTTP is installed then its being done as part of the Commercial rollout
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