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Standard User keymoo
(learned) Wed 13-May-15 09:48:15
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FTTC speed dropped from 55mbit to 2mbit (again)


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This has happened before on 16th March. I called my ISP Vivaciti (I know), and asked them what was up. They told me that there is an extreme amount of traffic across their network at the moment due to Patch Tuesday (Microsoft Updates). I said that a drop in speed from 55mbit to 2mbit is extreme.

Does this happen at any other ISP? Time to move on when contract expires? Speed at other times has been great with low pings on speedtest.net (9ms).

EDIT: Just done another test, down to 1mbit now.
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4356396794

My speedtest history since getting FTTC
http://imgur.com/4iRhSTy

Edited by keymoo (Wed 13-May-15 09:56:40)

Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 09:54:52
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They told me that there is an extreme amount of traffic across their network at the moment due to Patch Tuesday (Microsoft Updates).
This can be translated as "We haven't bought enough bandwidth for our network".

Speedtest taken a few minutes ago:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Bill
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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 13-May-15 10:07:19
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This can be translated as "We haven't bought enough bandwidth for our network".


... so we will blame someone else!

And my speedtest: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/14315...


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Standard User keymoo
(learned) Wed 13-May-15 10:37:05
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Re: FTTC speed dropped from 55mbit to 2mbit (again)


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Still slow, I'm wondering if they are just fobbing me off, I don't believe what they tell me. Here's some more info - any ideas what might cause it:

http://imgur.com/lT0bMrq
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 13-May-15 10:41:08
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Run a TBB speedtest and provide a link to the result.

Do you have the TBB Ping Monitor running?

Can you get your basic router stats?


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Standard User keymoo
(learned) Wed 13-May-15 10:54:22
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Don't have TBB Ping monitor, and don't want it running. Here's the TBB speed test result:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
Standard User WelshWArrior
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 13-May-15 11:07:52
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Re: FTTC speed dropped from 55mbit to 2mbit (again)


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There's nothing to run. All you'd do is set your router to respond to pings on the wan port.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 13-May-15 11:20:12
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I'm with Eclipse on FTTC, and I see the same Patch Tuesday effect. I'm down from 20Mbit to 0.5Mbit at the moment.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 13-May-15 11:22:39
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ISP has run out of capacity I would suggest, based on that test result.

Latest round of MS updates were ~200 MB and not everyone uses a PC and many who do don't have them turned on everyday. So if that was the cause then I would also expect that major sports and other live events would be having a similar impact.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 13-May-15 11:27:55
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Kinda interesting usually a good tbbx1 performance too

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 13-May-15 12:14:24
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Eclipse is dire at the moment - but then they've admitted that they don't have enough capacity for heavy load.

I do see severe degradation when there's popular TV on. They usually throttle per stream, so that the HTTPx6 test gives me about full speed, but at the moment the whole line is being severely throttled.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 13-May-15 12:19:47
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Almost back to normal now http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

On most days the two lines are fully flat, looks like SME office PC turned off overnight may have largely finished updating

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 13-May-15 13:42:12
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I wouldnt call microsoft updates an extreme pattern, an isp should be provisioned with those updates considered as normal traffic. For it to also drop to 2mbit is an insane level of congestion. I dont know what to say other than to jump ship, unless vivaciti say they going to fix it and agree its unacceptable.

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Standard User keymoo
(learned) Wed 13-May-15 14:05:42
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And they should be able to use a CDN or at least cache the files local to the ISP? Doesn't sound like rocket science to me.

Just got this reply from the ISP:

"All we know at the moment is that the node is running hot because of excessive traffic due to a Microsoft patch. **** is waiting for our suppliers managers to get out of a meeting so that he can talk to them about the issue. The issue itself is unlikely to be resolved today although your speeds should return to normal soon as traffic through your node decreases. Getting this issue resolved permanently is a high priority."

In other words, "Go away and try later."

Current speed
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Edited by keymoo (Wed 13-May-15 14:16:16)

Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 14:14:07
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although your speeds should return to normal soon as traffic through your node decreases.
In other words, the congestion will disappear when so many people stop using the internet.

Not a reply to inspire confidence. A useful next stop for you might be here.

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Standard User keymoo
(learned) Wed 13-May-15 14:17:16
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Thanks. When I upgraded to FTTC they made me sign a new 12 month contract, so can't move until March...
Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 14:24:46
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frown

Though it would be unfair to blame Vivaciti for that- it's a BT condition. Doesn't stop it being a pita.

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Standard User keymoo
(regular) Wed 13-May-15 15:20:46
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frown

Though it would be unfair to blame Vivaciti for that- it's a BT condition. Doesn't stop it being a pita.


I think the congestion is within Entanet - the supplier to Vivaciti, not BT.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 15:28:45
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I think that too. (Within Entanet).

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync 60000/16961kbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

Edited by RobertoS (Wed 13-May-15 15:29:16)

Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-May-15 16:06:34
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There is one ISP we hear about on here that doesn't pass the 12 month minimum term onto the customer...
Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 16:09:05
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True, but they put more effort than many into keeping their customers happy!

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 16:11:39
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Two.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync 60000/16961kbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-May-15 16:13:08
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Two.


I know of Pulse8. I suspect I have missed reference to the other one.
Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 16:15:20
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I know of Pulse8.
That wasn't the one I was thinking of ooo

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 16:22:46
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AAISP Home::1 and Home::2. Six months.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync 60000/16961kbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 13-May-15 16:29:16
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Didn't realise AAISP did short term contracts as well.
Standard User rippedcotton
(experienced) Wed 13-May-15 16:36:30
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Thanks. When I upgraded to FTTC they made me sign a new 12 month contract, so can't move until March...


However, if your throughput is regularly below the Fault Threshold Rate then that ought to open up an option of being released from the other contractual commitments.

I note that the Enta forum does have a few quite large threads about congestion from the last 9 months or more.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 13-May-15 16:44:43
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The FTR applies to sync speed and that doesn't seem to be the issue.

In any case, does it apply on FTTC connections? It could for BT Wholesale I suppose, but the general experience is that a loss of many Mbps sync is passed off as crosstalk and the BTW estimate reduced.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync 60000/16961kbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM
Standard User rippedcotton
(experienced) Wed 13-May-15 16:49:13
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The FTR applies to sync speed and that doesn't seem to be the issue.

In any case, does it apply on FTTC connections? It could for BT Wholesale I suppose, but the general experience is that a loss of many Mbps sync is passed off as crosstalk and the BTW estimate reduced.


Yes, I know that FTR applies to sync speed, but what use is that sync speed if it can't sustain reasonable throughput?

Zen's portal shows the FTR for my 80/20 line as 15000kbps, it's clear that the OP is getting less than this in throughput terms.

Might be a stick with which to beat Vivaciti...

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Standard User keymoo
(regular) Wed 13-May-15 16:59:48
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Back to normal now.
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4357266195

To be fair this is only the second time it's been slow since my upgrade date in early March. If it happens too often I'll be looking to move.
Standard User deleted
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Just run a test here and getting 60Meg through Zen Internet. I'd imagine it's your ISP not having the infrastructure. Time to look elsewhere I'd say.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 13-May-15 19:11:47
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Back to normal for me now

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
Standard User keymoo
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