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Hi all,
My Line attenuation is 20db.. And I've estimated it about 600m of the route it I think it takes
Syncing at 60meg download
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Sounds about right! My line is estimated at being 900 m long - reported attenuation of around 26.6 dB.
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what speeds do you get
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Circa 55 Mb DS and circa 8 Mb US.
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well yours alot faster 24.4 line db 35mb ds and 6mb us
Edited by deleted (Sat 07-Oct-17 09:09:30)
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Sync at 60 and get 60-59 with a 3.0 noise margin
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I'm at 20 dB line attenuation and at 6 dB SNRM target I can sync at 56Mbps / 13Mbps approximately.
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It sounds like your line is banded then...
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what does that mean then
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Mine too.
24.8dB attenuation and sync at 14.9 Mbps with 5.9dB SNRM. Openreach say my line is about 1.2km long so it sort of shows that with fibre using the attenuation isn't the best way to estimate line length.
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It means that your line is most likely stuck in a banded profile. In this instance, on the DS side. If you could post your line stats, I can confirm this for you.
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Ouch! That needs sorting out! You should be syncing closer to at least 40 Mb! With regards to attenuation, yes I partly agree, as it can be affected by lots of external factors, but it is the best figure to use, if you want to estimate your line length.
Edited by deleted (Sat 07-Oct-17 12:02:52)
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Confirm with what degree of confidence?
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really weird after 27 days 7 hours almost 36mb just went up
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Not a lot, but how else are you supposed to estimate and I stress ESTIMATE your line length without a JDSU?
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Ah, it's not banded, you just have either a slightly poor quality line or heavy amounts of crosstalk.
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i switching from plusnet soon what do i need tell them do i need a new line
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No, but you may have a fault. Please can you tell us if the router is connected to the master socket and can you paste the result of your phone number (if on BT) or your address (please blank this out) from this link.
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connected direct to the socket no phone conected
speed
speed 2
Edited by deleted (Sat 07-Oct-17 18:06:43)
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Ah, your line is connecting within the estimate shown, so unfortunately you won't be able to raise a fault very easily.
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You said
"It means that your line is most likely stuck in a banded profile. In this instance, on the DS side. If you could post your line stats, I can confirm this for you"
So was enquiring as to what confidence you could confirm its a banded profile. Nothing to do with estimating line length.
The questioning is a reminder that people will taken things like 'I can confirm' and believe you totally, so if you cannot be 100% certain better to qualify any comments.
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stats
Edited by deleted (Sat 07-Oct-17 18:15:30)
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Because if the line rate is at or around a banded profile value, it's going to be banded!
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Yup, nothing wrong with those stats. A DS SNRM of 3 dB, also suggest that the line, is relatively stable.
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i dunno really goes from 3.0db all away up to 3.7db not steady db
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So it is impossible to get those line rates unless the line is banded?
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No, however if the line resyncs either by DLM or via the EU, and it stays virtually the same, it's banded.
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Mine does that, however apparently that's fine...
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My neighbours get around the same speed so it's down to the copper and crosstalk guess.
I used to get around 33 Mbps but that was because my line was originally connected to a temporary cable that was put in for the site and sales offices which was some something like 400m shorter. That has since been removed and any lines connected to it were moved the cable that comes into the estate from the next road up.
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That copper is obviously very thin and poor then. 
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Or it could be that the line conditions have not changed so that the sync is virtually the same.
A sync virtually the same is not a 100% proof of banding, it might suggest its presence - which is what I am trying to get across.
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No, it most likely takes a longer route than the original temporary site office feed.
It is extremely unlikely that different gauge copper has been used. From what the poster says this sounds like a recently built site ... Openreach have basically only used 0.5 gauge copper for its new D side cables for well over 10 years.
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It is a new site completed started in 2014 and completed earlier this year. The temporary cable literally just came onto my road and terminated in a chamber 20m away from my house whereas the cable for Phase 1 of the development runs past the end of my road and along the next road up before coming down onto the Phase 2 houses and terminates in the same chamber.
You could say it literally goes round the houses. 
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