Is that G.Fast?

I saw this morning there was openreach has installed new pod fitted to the street cabinet pcp (8) as these are my cabinet. I have asked them is that g.fast but they refused to tell me anything. I just checked DSL Checker there is no metion of G.Fast for my cabinet.

Photo here: https://ibb.co/r4Qcj4Z

Yes, that's a G.Fast pod. Don't expect any mention of availability on the checker for quite a while after the pod is installed.

I saw a pod being fitted to a cabinet ten days ago - and got chatting with the engineers. They were happy to talk about everything - once they had established that I didn't work for Openreach

That cabinet isn't showing live for G.Fast yet and I don't expect it to for weeks.

Edited by caffn8me (Wed 13-Mar-19 15:32:09)

Oh well. I never wanted g.fast to be fitted. Never wanted it. All I want Openreach to installing a proper fibre to the premise (FTTP). Disappointed really. If G.Fast get estimated of 150/30 forget that! I will not buy that. Don't think my 248m away from this cabinet will getting 330/50 estimated sync rate.

Edited by adslmax (Wed 13-Mar-19 15:36:57)

Perhaps you should write to Openreach and tell them to remove it as you don't want it.

Good idea. I will do that!

I don't know exactly what my distance to cabinet is but top estimates on G.Fast are at a full 330/50 with worst case low speed of 198.4/18.8

I do agree that FTTP is far preferable and I can now get non Openreach FTTP - although I'm waiting a while yet.

My mother's master socket is 10m from the cabinet so should get a good G.Fast speed if that goes live. The very old and decrepit PCP was replaced with a a shiny new one in a different location a while back, no doubt in preparation.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Perhaps you should write to Openreach and tell them to remove it as you don't want it.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

All I want Openreach to installing a proper fibre to the premise (FTTP).

If you can get FTTPoD, why not take them up on the offer? I'm sure they'd be happy to oblige (after a small exchange of gold tokens) and then you'll get what you desire.

Matt

Matt

I would love to have FTTPoD but it no point to have it installing because I am living in the social council housing. Will be waste of my money if the landlord decided that I must move out at anytime.

That still could be quite the risk with FTTP then as those terms are still 12 months from OR right now. Could end up quite costly if you're a month in and have the move, potentially to somewhere that has not got it.

Matt

I have spoken to my housing landlord about FTTPoD a long while last year and they say yes I can have it if I want it as my contract agreement is long term stay at my council housing as long I pay the rent myself.

Is there a correlation between your FTTC attenuation and possible G.FAST speed?

Don't think my cab will ever get done, although i'm in a G.FAST area.

As in the FTTC attenuation will give you an idea of your line length

In reply to a post by uno:

That still could be quite the risk with FTTP then as those terms are still 12 months from OR right now. Could end up quite costly if you're a month in and have the move, potentially to somewhere that has not got it.

Matt

Do you know if Openreach have any plans for FTTP services on 30 day min terms?

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Do you know if Openreach have any plans for FTTP services on 30 day min terms?

Highly doubtful, unless they massively increased the up-front install fee.

The existing £92+VAT (which is usually absorbed by the service provider) surely doesn't cover the cost of sending out an engineer to drill through your walls and install the fibre and ONT.

Nothing i've seen.

It could be a while off, similar to what happened with VDSL, that was many years longer than the period seen with ADSL engineer and self-install.

Matt

Updated: I have spoken to Openreach via email and the good news that my cabinet 8 with g.fast will go live by next 8-12 weeks as they just awaiting to do five more cabinets in my area Cabinet 9, 7, 13, 1 and 6 but also saying FTTP is only available nuplace new houses in my area, Dawley, St.Georges and Madeley.

But the bad news is: PN will not offer g.fast service for the time being. So, I won't bother then.

I'm grateful you didn't namedrop some random person who works for Openreach and has never heard of you in your alleged communication this time, as I'm sure a random person within Openreach is.

Tidied up

There is work for g.fast in other side of my area by BP petrol station according to roadwork.org (that will be cabinet pcp 6)

Roadworks, delays unlikely

20 Mar - 22 Mar

Mound Way, Woodside, Telford, Telford...

Information for Road Users
Location: Mound Way, Woodside, Telford, Telford and Wrekin
Traffic lights, etc: No carriageway incursion
Information for Operational Teams
Highway Authority: Telford and Wrekin Borough Council
Location: Outside 1 Mound Way
Description: CUCKOO OAK - 6 - DSLAM - 612525 - Install approx 3m duct and a cabinet in fw/verge
Permit status: Permit Pending
Works ref: BC006MU1WGFASTIBY4H5NJ01
Current status: Planned work about to start
Work info last updated: 15:53 on 15/03/2019
Last updated on roadworks.org: 11:58 on 16/03/2019
Data source: BT

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In reply to a post by adslmax:

Learn more about the Accuracy and Liability of our my data.

A suggestion for your sig

Though maybe there's a typo there anyway. I assume it should be "reliability", not liability. And it shouldn't have capital letters. We have enough americanisms in our language these days, without adopting German capitalisation.

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 16-Mar-19 22:09:45)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Learn more about the Accuracy and Liability of our my data.

A suggestion for your sig

Errm..... that's not adslmax's sig. That's exactly what it says on roadworks.org

Liability is correct - roadworks.org accepts no liability from inaccurate data. Their full get-out clause reads;

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Edited by caffn8me (Sat 16-Mar-19 23:19:00)

I was suggesting my amended version of the single line as suitable for a sig for him .

I did expect the "liability" bit to be a copy and paste but didn't check. I stand corrected , but also claim the lack of context for it as my (I believe valid) excuse. There was no clue to it being a heading.