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It randomly appeared within the last week.
https://i.imgur.com/r4mAXpY.jpg
Dan
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A VDSL DSLAM side pod for more capacity
Edited by witchunt (Fri 01-Nov-19 19:56:43)
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bah
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Yes it is a GFast pod
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If it was a DSLAM expansion wouldn't it be on the VDSL cab?
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No they do VDSL sidepod extensions to the PCP cabinets now.
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I thought it was too Partial.
Based on the side pod not going all the way down to the ground.
VDSL expansion needs copper ties to the DSLAM cab, these go out through the base of the new pod.
G.fast ties run out through the side into the existing cabinet.
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No. Its a VDSL sidepod
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So a mini DSLAM physically attached ?
Or just two more verts of (maybe) two hundred pairs .. and then fed sideways into the original cab ducts ?
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A mini DSLAM cabinet
Like this
Edited by witchunt (Sat 02-Nov-19 09:41:00)
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Pretty much identical to this G.fast pod which I am currently connected to.
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Och well, ya live, ya learn.
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So the question then is how do the public tell difference between the VDSL2 side pod and a G.fast side pod?
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Good question MrS.
@witchunt, what is the difference between my photo and the OP's photo where 2 apparently identical boxes serve different purposes?
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The internals?
I doubt if Openreach feel under any obligation to publicise what is inside their casings  . The fact we can in general do so is just happenstance.
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I think the Huawei G. Fast have a bulged door, Nokia G.fast have a single vent at the bottom of the door, and VDSL pods have vents top and bottom, but that may not be a hard and fast rule.
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My understanding was Nokia G.fast was single vent, but Huawei G.fast had top and bottom vents
VDSL2 or G.fast they are both DSLAM of course and chassis is likely to be identical for G.fast and VDSL2, just different line cards.
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Having just looked at a VDSL side pod it does look similar or the same as a Huawei G.Fast pod, so probably just have to ask here.
The OP's cabinet though is VDSL and no g.fast
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It randomly appeared within the last week.
https://i.imgur.com/r4mAXpY.jpg
Dan
Yes, it a G.fast pod. Easy to tell.
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Nope
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It randomly appeared within the last week.
https://i.imgur.com/r4mAXpY.jpg
Dan
Yes, it a G.fast pod. Easy to tell.
When engineers can�t tell and the exteriors are seemingly identical, nope.
Only witchunt will know, having sent a magic micro-broomstick drone to check the internals. Or perhaps some more conventional way.
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Thanks Witchunt you were spot on,
Openreach twitter confirmed its a VDSL pod due to go live Jan 2020 to increase capacity, although as far as I was aware the VDSL cab wasn't at capacity it must be nearly, it has had the extra side extension 2.5 years ago when it was full!
I always wondered why they installed the smaller cab for so many properties, when a couple of miles down the road they used the bigger HW cab for many less.
Dan
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The PCP in your opening photo is a full size one. In fact possibly the largest physical size Openreach have ever had.
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I didn�t even know Openreach were doing VDSL side pods. Interesting.
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I thought g.fast was shaped like this
http://i.epvpimg.com/Or9ngab.png
with a like slant to one side i've seen a few of them around.
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Nope
Yes it a G.fast pod. Because one of my friend live at cabinet 13 and this pod is G.fast one as he got G.fast service https://ibb.co/JFnngK9
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It randomly appeared within the last week.
https://i.imgur.com/r4mAXpY.jpg
Dan
Your picture photo is the same as this cabinet 13 (it deffo G.fast not VDSL pod) here: https://ibb.co/JFnngK9
You need to take another photo in daytime to see it much clearer photo.
My G.fast pod here: https://ibb.co/f4S4HZ0
Edited by adslmax (Sun 03-Nov-19 21:54:04)
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No, it's a VDSL pod. I suggest you read the whole thread.
The cabinets maybe similar/same, but the contents are different.
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Max, I think we know each other reasonably well. Sometimes I support you when others are shouting you down because of the way you post. When I do that, it's because you are right, but maybe you hadn't written it down well.
When anyone disagrees with witchunt's "suggestions", the odds are well above 99% that they are wrong.
When he repeatedly states someting as fact, which is very rarely, it is 100% certain he is posting from actual knowledge. I guarantee you and some others are wrong.
There is only one possible circumstance in which he could be wrong about this. That would be if Openreach documentation about that cabinet was wrong.
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"Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people." Oscar WildeEdited by RobertoS (Sun 03-Nov-19 22:34:36)
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The photo look much the same (should be G.fast) otherwise the VDSL side should be fitted on the FTTC cabinet side (not the PCP side)
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No, it's a VDSL pod. I suggest you read the whole thread.
The cabinets maybe similar/same, but the contents are different.
I thought for some reason VDSL pod should be on the FTTC cabinet not PCP side?
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IIRC from previous discussions, (well - one discussion), on these forums, additional VDSL2 pods can be either side.
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It's pretty easy to mix up and confusion.
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I thought for some reason VDSL pod should be on the FTTC cabinet not PCP side? The position of the FTTC cabinet is irrelevant. Cables for everything come in underground, and internal cabling between the pod and the PCP can route however it likes inside the PCP.
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When he repeatedly states
Don't assume everyone in telecoms is a guy
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In every preceding post I deliberately made sure I avoided that presumption .
However I have reason to believe that the poster is male, but disclosing that reason could cause us to lose said poster.
Giving information of the kind we get is very much frowned upon within BT Group.
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No, it's a VDSL pod. I suggest you read the whole thread.
The cabinets maybe similar/same, but the contents are different. Hi witchunt
I think a lot of us amateurs (and also a few well respected professionals) have been confused. For me its the first VDSL pod on a PCP I've seen, although seen many G.fast pods on PCP's. Out of interest who manufactures them?
We are all now a little wiser thanks to you
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Huawei. They are a relatively new addition to the network
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I guess because of its �bolt on� nature, and general lack of civils, it�s a cheap option.
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No doubt its cheaper than the full cabinet build, using existing fibre and power from the original DSLAM. Crucially, It should also be significantly quicker.
Note that some cabs may get an additional pod to house additional copper terminations
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Was aware that these were on the way, but was hoping for there to be an easy way to tell them apart, as guidelines for people getting excited about G.fast appearing, when it is just additional VDSL2 capacity
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