New house, not on roll out

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

The road we are on is a mix of old and new houses - so from what I can tell, Openreach is going to run FTTP to all the old houses on the road and then leave all the new ones unconnected!

Edited by Pheasant (Thu 04-Mar-21 23:24:05)

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

I’m posting from my mobile which doesn’t seem to me an option to so screen shots,

Edited by Davey_H (Fri 05-Mar-21 08:27:03)

In reply to a post by MHC:

Just that from what you say there are contradictory statements in the checker.

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

lists FTTP as available but adds in the notes that FTTP is not available to the premises as it’s not on the roll out programme.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Typically Openreach will allow enough CBT ports for all properties in a given street when doing a full rollout.

Edited by deleted (Fri 05-Mar-21 09:38:02)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Thanks for the clarification edit.

It says that it’s on cabinet 2 and lists FTTP as available but adds in the notes that FTTP is not available to the premises as it’s not on the roll out programme.

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

Apologies for the slow response! I know how to take a screen shot on my mobile, I just couldn't figure out how to paste it to a post
I'm now on my laptop and still can't - there doesn't appear to be an option to attach files?!
(I'm not usually this thick,...!)

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

...just an update - so apparently, according to the first house - there was no copper connection at all. The developer bought a plot with 1 house on it, and turned it into 4. None of the houses have any existing connections (ie all houses need new copper cabling running to them).

Would this be an area for leverage do we think?

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Sounds like a developer who has dodged their utilities connection responsibility

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

so in your case 50% of the devlopement is not sold -- so you have some leverage in the short term with the developer

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

Yes - but the key is, what is the legal requirement? Cos that is what we can hold them to...:

Edited by deleted (Sat 06-Mar-21 10:06:47)

Edited by deleted (Sat 06-Mar-21 23:53:08)

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

So the area we live is in having FTTP rolled out currently - work due to complete end of the month.
Connecting Counties (who are coordinating it on behalf of Bucks council) have confirmed to me that whilst we are in the roll out area, our house specifically will be excluded.
Openreach have also directly confirmed to me that the works for the Penn area roll out are due to be completed over the next few weeks.
So whilst the neighbouring houses are not yet connected, they will be connected very soon.

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

issue with BDUK the intervention area is driven on postcode data, when this area no postcodes, so no they have built only to the postcodes they can which means the development which is on a new DP wont be on any any plan

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

you should be writing to your MP

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

Where are you looking? The image I posted a few bits up (which was for Belleview) is not in scope - in the notes below the main table. It says it’s not part of the rollout?

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

How can I check/ensure we are also being included in the plans do you know?

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

Ah ok. I’m not sure I know what XHR is but it sounds promising.

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

How can I check/ensure we are also being included in the plans do you know?
If it turns out that we are, last thing I want to do is place an order for FTTC (which is my only option right know, though I know it is terrible) and then be stuck in a contract for 12-24 months.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

The fact that the API response returns "in scope" is no guarantee that FTTP will be provided now or in the near future. The only certainty is when the CBT is in place and your property is marked as accepting orders.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

It's the JSON response from the availability checker API; it returns some extra data that isn't displayed in the web page.

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

In reply to a post by candlerb:

It's the JSON response from the availability checker API; it returns some extra data that isn't displayed in the web page.

I've seen this mentioned before but my attempts to look in the webpage code flopped. Howzit dun? Bonus kudos for safari instructions

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{"status":{"successful":true,"description":"single"},"content":[{"fttp":"available","gfast":"not in scope","fttc":"available","nadkey":"...etc"}]}

In reply to a post by candlerb:

I don't know whether corresponding functionality exists in Safari.

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{
    "status": {        "successful": true,
        "description": "single"    },
    "content": [        {
            "fttp": "not in scope",            "gfast": "not in scope",
            "fttc": "available",            "nadkey": " removed",
            "uprn": "",            "name": "Glasgow Halfway",
            "cabinetNumber": "20",            "speed": "69.62",
            "sauid": "WSHAL",            "lat": "removed",
            "lng": "removed",            "address": "Glasgow, United Kingdom",
            "premisesType": "",            "postcode": "removed"
        }    ]
}

Edited by kitcat (Mon 08-Mar-21 17:10:07)

In reply to a post by kitcat:

11.58.24

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

If it turns out that we are, last thing I want to do is place an order for FTTC (which is my only option right know, though I know it is terrible) and then be stuck in a contract for 12-24 months.

Edited by deleted (Mon 08-Mar-21 17:55:29)

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

So we have a new build - and currently no cabling at all has been installed. So we have no current phone line, broadband or ISP.
I think the develop should have don’t something that was more than nothing, but they didn’t!

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

So we have a new build - and currently no cabling at all has been installed. So we have no current phone line, broadband or ISP.

I think the develop should have don’t something that was more than nothing, but they didn’t!

Edited by witchunt (Tue 09-Mar-21 16:06:24)

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by crdrummond:

Where are you looking? The image I posted a few bits up (which was for Belleview) is not in scope - in the notes below the main table. It says it’s not part of the rollout?

Its returned within the XHR on the Openreach fibre checker page which is different from what you have previously provided. I suspect the rest of your lane is being funded by BDUK and Openreach have chosen to do Belleview using their own money so maybe yours will be done as well.

In reply to a post by witchunt:

I reckon it's all irrelevant anyway. If I have the location correct then there was already a house on the plot which was demolished and new builds replaced them. All the houses on that road are OH fed. I reckon Openreach would have built FTTP anyway and the developer didnt have to do much if anything.
Edit: actually , I think the developers did do some legwork, contrary to some opinions.