Nokia G-010G-Q ONT Template

I'm looking for a Nokia G-010G-Q ONT template if anyone can provide a link to one.

I have the overall dimensions (89mm height x 82mm wide) and know the screw holes are 60mm apart using a 4mm thread with a 6-8mm screw head.

Horizontal Position 11mm-Screw-60mm-Screw-11mm

Vertical Position This is the missing info, I know the screws are not positioned centrally on the vertical (e.g. 44.5mm from top and bottom), from pics I've seen they look nearer to the top than bottom.

are these photos from one being sold on ebay any help
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313931206290?hash=item491...

In reply to a post by threelegs:

are these photos from one being sold on ebay any help
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313931206290?hash=item491...

Thanks very much, I'll try resizing the picture and see how I get on

I wouldn't build a place for the ONT to live that relies too much on those dimensions being perfect - Openreach could change the ONT model at any point either as part of an upgrade to XGSPON or if you have an ONT fault in the future and it gets changed. Aim for as much flexibility as you can.

Edit: This is the template from the Huawei ONT that fits into the same casing as the Nokia, and it's the same dimensions within 1mm. You should be able to scale off this

https://i.imgur.com/aMLWBN6.jpg

Edited by jpm (Sun 27-Mar-22 20:02:20)

In reply to a post by threelegs:

are these photos from one being sold on ebay any help
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313931206290?hash=item491...

Does make you wonder where these sellers are getting their stock of new Openreach branded Nokia and Huawei ONTs from….😎

In reply to a post by jpm:

I wouldn't build a place for the ONT to live that relies too much on those dimensions being perfect - Openreach could change the ONT model at any point either as part of an upgrade to XGSPON or if you have an ONT fault in the future and it gets changed. Aim for as much flexibility as you can.

Edit: This is the template from the Huawei ONT that fits into the same casing as the Nokia, and it's the same dimensions within 1mm. You should be able to scale off this

https://i.imgur.com/aMLWBN6.jpg

You make a good point about leaving enought flexibility which I will take on board the link to the template is much appreciated.

Edited by deleted (Sun 27-Mar-22 22:07:07)

I'd say it's worth leaving space for the housing. It does provide an area for the fibre tail to be coiled up neatly, and less likely to be disturbed accidentally.

Is the housing supplied as standard these days? It seems like a good idea to me (harder to damage, less likely to be taken when property vacated) but I'm sure opinions vary...

My understanding is that the housing is for new build where the developer is putting the fibre cable within the fabric of the building and presenting it on a double backbox. I was told they aren't carried by Openreach engineers and aren't used for standard FTTP installs.

Mine came without a housing, as for hole templates, well 'Kowboy Communications' just peppered the wall with holes, one of which was used to hold the ONT. 🤬

Looking at the image - how do youget a 9mm screw head through an 8.4mm hole? On even worse, two at once!

In reply to a post by MHC:

how do youget a 9mm screw head through an 8.4mm hole? On even worse, two at once!

Link

Kowboy Commz needs to offer training classes; helping their installers to identify wall types and selecting suitable wall fixings, as well as a bag of different fixings for each job.

e.g. the wallplugs supplied in the ONT box are not the best choice for plasterboard / cavity / hollow / membraned walls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIEY3E4fiDk

You take a run-up

In reply to a post by ft247:

Is the housing supplied as standard these days? It seems like a good idea to me (harder to damage, less likely to be taken when property vacated) but I'm sure opinions vary...

No. They are only used on new builds.

They can be picked up for as little as £10 on eBay though, with a free Huawei ONT in the box.

A search for "HG8010h5-20" on eBay will throw up many results.

Pheasant

Also how they are selling so many and to who, (6 Nokia sold in past 24hours).

In reply to a post by dect:

I'm looking for a Nokia G-010G-Q ONT template if anyone can provide a link to one.

I have the overall dimensions (89mm height x 82mm wide) and know the screw holes are 60mm apart using a 4mm thread with a 6-8mm screw head.

Horizontal Position 11mm-Screw-60mm-Screw-11mm

Vertical Position This is the missing info, I know the screws are not positioned centrally on the vertical (e.g. 44.5mm from top and bottom), from pics I've seen they look nearer to the top than bottom.

From the template/device links that were kindly shared here I have concluded the the two screws need to be 42mm from the top of the Nokia ONT. Anyone have a different opinion please let me know

I’m curious as to why you’d like to know the precise set out - are you aligning this somehow with something or is it going into joinery or an enclosure?

In reply to a post by kitcat:

Pheasant

Also how they are selling so many and to who, (6 Nokia sold in past 24hours).

Perhaps it’s ahem “excess stock” from the new build scene?

As to where/who they’re being sold to - I suppose someone fancies ONTs at below cost, for their own GPON lab or network or something? 🥸

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

I’m curious as to why you’d like to know the precise set out - are you aligning this somehow with something or is it going into joinery or an enclosure?

I couldn't possibly say

Secret squirrels 😎😂

I do have a spare ONT somewhere here - left by OR when my connection was not well! I will try to find it.

The exact screw position though will depend on the screw you use. For example, if a 3mm is used the ONT will rest 0.5mm lower than if a 4mm was used.


edit to add:

The Box is 89mm tall measured at the front, but tapers to teh back where it is just 87.

The top of the narrow part of the mounting slot is 38.2mm down on teh back meaning, for a 4mm screw, the centee will be 40.2 down. The larger holes are only 8,2 dia.and teh slot part just 4.54 wide which gives very little tolerance on the horizontal position especially with 4mm screws, 3.5 will be a little more forgiving.

Edited by MHC (Mon 28-Mar-22 15:31:05)

In reply to a post by MHC:

The Box is 89mm tall measured at the front, but tapers to teh back where it is just 87.

The top of the narrow part of the mounting slot is 38.2mm down on teh back meaning, for a 4mm screw, the centee will be 40.2 down. The larger holes are only 8,2 dia.and teh slot part just 4.54 wide which gives very little tolerance on the horizontal position especially with 4mm screws, 3.5 will be a little more forgiving.

Thanks that info is really helpful, appreciate you do those measurements and the advice about the screw sizes.

Anything more? It is sitting on my desk with the vernier calipers!


And try to use pan head screws, or cheesehead not countersunk.

In reply to a post by MHC:

Anything more? It is sitting on my desk with the vernier calipers!

I feel bad asking but am I right in thinking 60mm centres for the screws on the horizontal?

In reply to a post by MHC:

And try to use pan head screws, or cheesehead not countersunk.

I remember a previous thread on here about using pan head or countersunk and there was a split decision on what to use, I for one would typically use pan head for something like this although I remember one of the Openreach guys saying he always used countersunk screws as he felt it held the ONT in place better.

Measuring the slot:

Outside edge to outside edge: 64.66
Inside edge to inside edge: 55.42

(64.66+55.42)/2 = 60.04

The holes:

Outside to Outside: 68.24
Inside to Inside:: 51.88

(68.24 + 51.88)/2 = 60.06


It is fairly soft plastic, and not ideal for measuring precisely so 60mm will be fine.


I always prefer pan head: Try teh fit, if it slides on easily, tighten 1/8 turn, and keep checking tweaking until it is an interferenc fit and held tight

In reply to a post by MHC:

Measuring the slot:

Outside edge to outside edge: 64.66
Inside edge to inside edge: 55.42

(64.66+55.42)/2 = 60.04

The holes:

Outside to Outside: 68.24
Inside to Inside:: 51.88

(68.24 + 51.88)/2 = 60.06


It is fairly soft plastic, and not ideal for measuring precisely so 60mm will be fine.


I always prefer pan head: Try teh fit, if it slides on easily, tighten 1/8 turn, and keep checking tweaking until it is an interferenc fit and held tight

Thanks, I've got everything I need now so its safe to put the vernier calipers away

What about position of the three connectors!

In reply to a post by MHC:

What about position of the three connectors!

Am totally flexible on the positioning of the connectors

You would think only an Openreach employee who doesn’t need continued employment , would be daft enough to steal from their employer and offer the stolen items for sale.
On new builds, there are two categories of install, a standard one , where the OR tech fits the ONT and cover , the developer only installing the OR provided ‘ezibend’ cable from the ONT location to the external wall where the duct appears , and DSI , Developer Self Install , where the developer is provided with sufficient ONT and covers , for the number of plots being built, and is expected to install these as well as the ‘Ezibend’, the developer is paid more by OR for a DSI install than one where OR fit the ONT and cover.
On many occasions this DSI work isn’t done even though the developer has been paid the DSI premium, the OR tech , although only expecting to fit the external CSP do the external splice , has to fit what should have already been fitted by the developer, there is a mechanism to reclaim the DSI cost , but generally it’s not done, it’s easier for the OR tech to simply fit these items themselves , from the stock they carry on board .
The OR provided equipment that was never installed on these DSI jobs are probably those items that appear for sale , no doubt the seller being the electrician or someone within the developers organisation that should have done the DSI in the first place.

Edited by Iniltous (Mon 28-Mar-22 18:21:00)

http://www.fibrefrolics.net/files/ont_wall_mounting_...

Wall mount templates for :

Huawei ONT_GPON terminal HG8010H-20
Huawei ONT GPON terminal HG8110H-20
Nokia ONT GPON terminal G-010G-Q
Huawei access terminal box 14260865 ATB2111


[TO DO: for posterity/nostalgia - wall mounting templates for
Huawei ONT GPON terminal EchoLife HG8240
ECI ONT GPON terminal B-FOCuS_O-4G2PCM UK
and, if and when it surfaces in the wild, the AdTran ONT TA401? ]

In reply to a post by fibrefrolics:

[TO DO: for posterity/nostalgia - wall mounting templates for
Huawei ONT GPON terminal EchoLife HG8240
ECI ONT GPON terminal B-FOCuS_O-4G2PCM UK
and, if and when it surfaces in the wild, the AdTran ONT TA401? ]

Is it likely to be the AdTran TA401 or a modified version that closely aligns with the Nokia and Huawei dimensions as from what I have read the AdTran TA401 screw holes are 2 inches apart (their words not mine) and the fibre connection going in from the top rather than the bottom.

In reply to a post by Iniltous:

You would think only an Openreach employee who doesn’t need continued employment , would be daft enough to steal from their employer and offer the stolen items for sale.
On new builds, there are two categories of install, a standard one , where the OR tech fits the ONT and cover , the developer only installing the OR provided ‘ezibend’ cable from the ONT location to the external wall where the duct appears , and DSI , Developer Self Install , where the developer is provided with sufficient ONT and covers , for the number of plots being built, and is expected to install these as well as the ‘Ezibend’, the developer is paid more by OR for a DSI install than one where OR fit the ONT and cover.
On many occasions this DSI work isn’t done even though the developer has been paid the DSI premium, the OR tech , although only expecting to fit the external CSP do the external splice , has to fit what should have already been fitted by the developer, there is a mechanism to reclaim the DSI cost , but generally it’s not done, it’s easier for the OR tech to simply fit these items themselves , from the stock they carry on board .
The OR provided equipment that was never installed on these DSI jobs are probably those items that appear for sale , no doubt the seller being the electrician or someone within the developers organisation that should have done the DSI in the first place.

There's all sorts of clearly quite new ex-BT FTTP gear on FleaBay...

Internal white CSP

BBU wall mount enclosure for original Huawei 1+1 ONT

BT Prysmian Fibre Distribution Point

20m BT OFS EZ Bend fibre cable

I'm surprised no one has smuggled a 17-slot Huawei OLT out the door...yet

In reply to a post by dect:

Is it likely to be the AdTran TA401 or a modified version that closely aligns with the Nokia and Huawei dimensions as from what I have read the AdTran TA401 screw holes are 2 inches apart (their words not mine) and the fibre connection going in from the top rather than the bottom.

Openreach mentioned an Adtran user trail in one of the newsletter things about a year ago...been nothing heard on here from folks or in the press about them rolling out Adtran ONTs subsequently.

TA401 is quite an old design, and the port placement is just plain odd. As you say wouldn't fit in with the footprint of the existing Huawei or Nokia's which sensibly have all the ports on one edge. Perhaps that's why we haven't seen an Adtran ONT rolled out...?

Some may be from when BT vans are broken into, grab everything they can and run.

Almost oll of it on "unregulated" sales sites could well be stolen and nothing is done to stop the sales.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

TA401 is quite an old design, and the port placement is just plain odd. As you say wouldn't fit in with the footprint of the existing Huawei or Nokia's which sensibly have all the ports on one edge. Perhaps that's why we haven't seen an Adtran ONT rolled out...?

I recall you quoting a newsletter from Openreach a few months back confirming that some customers had been connected via Adtran kit but the newsletter didn't specify if it was for the OLT or ONT or both, its been some time now since the original announcement about Adtran supplying Openreach and you would have thought we would have heard from members of this forum if anyone had seen a Adtran ONT being used. It didn't seem as long before Nokia ONTs were common place after their contract announcement with Openreach.

Circling back here, following updates in the recent BT issue thread…

The up to now somewhat elusive Openreach Adtran ONT (a customised SDX 611 in regulation issue white Openreach frock) has been uncovered in the wilds of Bromley 🤣 (and likely thousands of other locations)! Similar size (a touch smaller actually) to existing Openreach Huawei and Nokia 1+0 ONTs.

Near cousin of the standard issue black SDX 611 as used by Hey!Broadband amongst other AltNets too doubtless - Openreach have used their standard LED status designations rather than the standard Adtran pictograms for these indicators. Otherwise probably near enough identical under the hood.

Looks like it’s been installed from at least mid-March 2022 - from the usefully linked post on the Sky user forums, however not reflected in any recent update of the GEA-FTTP SIN. Not yet anyway.

In reply to a post by fibrefrolics:

http://www.fibrefrolics.net/files/ont_wall_mounting_...

Wall mount templates for :

Huawei ONT_GPON terminal HG8010H-20
Huawei ONT GPON terminal HG8110H-20
Nokia ONT GPON terminal G-010G-Q
Huawei access terminal box 14260865 ATB2111


[TO DO: for posterity/nostalgia - wall mounting templates for
Huawei ONT GPON terminal EchoLife HG8240
ECI ONT GPON terminal B-FOCuS_O-4G2PCM UK
and, if and when it surfaces in the wild, the AdTran ONT TA401? ]

Your link above appears to be down / dead @fibrefrolics

Did you ever update the template for the legacy ONTs and perhaps the Openreach version of the Adtran SDX611 (in white) now that they are in deployment?