how do you figure that?

they ultimately control what is sold, not how much is sold.

so they do not control profit.

back on topic though, 2.5 billion to be invested, no other private company is investing anywhere near that in the current climate, also the engineers are working flat out day in day out and there is also recruitment on the go aswell to backfill staffing levels, so as i have said before, be patient

BT are not actually investing that much. Who exacly are you comparing them with?

orly,
Yes I agree my village is not very big around about 11,000 houses and 500 businesses.
To again show what a joke BT are, what do you think of this then.
Last week my dad was contacted by BT to order infinity as I'd registered his interest for Fibre ( He didn't really want it as he's 84 and happy with his free BB from Sky), so we ordered FTTC and were given a date of 22nd March. Ok I'm thinking I'll be able to order soon. Just had a call from dad he's had an email overnight informing him that the option you are trying to order is not available to you . Hang on what's going on here so I checked and BT has now moved the RFS date back to 30th June 2011.
So Richard Hall I wonder if the take up in Wales is in Fact due to your Company and the way they are messing around with FTTC
Iechyd Da

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

BT are not actually investing that much. Who exacly are you comparing them with?

BT Group are investing £2.5Billion in their FTTX services and this investment is easily verifiable to anyone with access to Google,

Please could you let us know who else is putting similar money into 'Digital Britain'?

saves me replying. ta

In reply to a post by RandomJointer:

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

BT are not actually investing that much. Who exacly are you comparing them with?

BT Group are investing £2.5Billion in their FTTX services and this investment is easily verifiable to anyone with access to Google,

Please could you let us know who else is putting similar money into 'Digital Britain'?

Who exactly are you cmparing them with? A good chunk of that money is also public money

Just an update I emailed Ian Livingston yesterday as I'd seen post about doing so, I've had 3 replies from Ceri who works for him and have been told that my FTTC Cab will be live by end of March 2011 and that been told this " have discussed and found out info relating to your cabinet from the highest level in Openreach - any probs - ring me or e-mail immediately "
So things maybe looking up

Iechyd Da

How much of the 2.5 bil is public money?

Pass I've not got any idea what's so ever how much

In reply to a post by Bob_s2:

BT seem to be makinhg exactly the same mistakes that they made with ADSL and focus on rooling it out to the large central exchanges where take up tends to be low as they have a high level of small businesses and most dont need high speed Broad band

BT are pretty useless at planning & marketing hence the constant shifting sands and conflicting information from them. I doubt BT will ever change though.

this rollout isnt following that pattern nationwide.

from what I can see its concentrating on expense per home passed and affluency of area.

so short line areas with a richer populace are favoured, and density per cabinet as well.

What I posted on the news item was this.

1 - BT missed the boat, this rollout came years too late, should have been done when the likes of sky and O2/BE started getting customers, now people on good lines on a good LLU isp arent finding FTTC tempting enough to switch, even on good lines on 21CN possibly also the same. Going for VM enabled areas certianly seems a mistake as anyone who will pay for higher speed already will have a home with VM and yes I will say it that even going to my area would be a bad move now as VM have sown it up they got here first.
2 - Richer people I suspect have a lesser reliance on the internet than poorer people and are less likely to want higher speed products due to less likely to do things like film downloading. So I think the affluency thing is a daft idea.
3 - concentrating on shorter line areas as a priority due to lower rollout costs, this reduces the WOW factor as someone on 16mbit going to 40mbit is ok but it s way better for someone to get a jump from 0.5mbit to 15mbit+. Also in the latter situation a premium can be charged as the customer will be more desperate.
4 - the areas that got picked for PR reasons. Bad idea in terms of numbers signing up although the PR gains may bear fruits.

In reality they should have targeted the following areas in my view (almost opposite to what they done).

Areas with little competition, especially VM.
Areas with no and slow spots.
Areas with customers more dependant on internet and heavier usage. This I expect be poorer areas for majority of time. Whilst more affluent areas may have higher actual takeup (assuming yarwell facts correct), I suspect they will be more based on light users who just have it for very occasional use. VM utilisation stats indicate poorer areas have higher utilisation, and richer areas poorer utilisation.