In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Europe and the rest of the world have had much better broadband for years.

Many cities in the rest of the world do indeed, but the vast majority of other countries have a much lower coverage of the population with an acceptable service.

You are looking at selective statistics. Anything can be proved by statistics, even complete opposites.

Absolutely correct! it's called managing statistics

However on another more positive note, I'm still really pleased with the consistently higher speeds I'm getting from BT, and it proves the old saying .......... you get what you pay for
Glad that I did not go to BT for their forum - it's something else
as only one man/woman and his or her dog appears to be using it ............. what a waste of Corporate £millions!

although it could be then seen as a god company to go with as the forums aren't abuzz with complaints.

Although there do seem to be die hard BT haters who go there for a rant.

Yes, you're right. Split off and shares given to BT shareholders, who got the £18billion from Telefonica when they bought it...

In reply to a post by TheManStan:

Yes, you're right. Split off and shares given to BT shareholders, who got the £18billion from Telefonica when they bought it...

Shareholders were not GIVEN any shares. What they received in exchange for BT shares were shares of an equal and equivalent value in te two companies.

Go back and look at how many BILLIONS BT share holders paid for the shares, how much they then paid in rights issues over the years. the shareholders return on investment over the past 10 or 20 years has probably been around te same as an investment in a bank/buildiong society savings account.

Sorry you don't seem to understand that i agreed with you...

Yes, in the split shares were issued to BT shareholders for equivalent value in the two companies. Surrendering the original BT shares and being GIVEN two sets of new notes, one for new BT shares and one for O2 shares. I wasn't impying they magicked up cash for nothing... or are you just nit picking for nit picking's sake?

Those shareholders who kept the O2 shares, then received ~£18 billion from Telefonica when they were taken over. Original note value ~82.75p received 200p...