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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 26-Feb-13 08:29:45
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Re: Turning an extension socket into a fibre socket?


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You beat me to it!


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 26-Feb-13 09:03:46
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Re: Turning an extension socket into a fibre socket?


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Idc connectors only support two wires

So this job today may need a bit more planning

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User simon194
(committed) Tue 26-Feb-13 09:04:40
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Re: Turning an extension socket into a fibre socket?


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Possibly.

Distance is everything with VDSL, an extra 20 m of telephone wiring can mean a couple of Meg lost.

.. or more depending on your connection. I gained about 5Mbps just by replacing the standard flat cable that came with the modem with screened Cat5. smile


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Feb-13 12:25:02
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Re: Turning an extension socket into a fibre socket?


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
So this job today may need a bit more planning


Is there going to be any changes to the steps you provided me?? I already ordered some of those gel crimps of the site you reccomended.

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(staff) Tue 26-Feb-13 12:45:31
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Re: Turning an extension socket into a fibre socket?


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Well without knowing how the extensions are actually connected it is impossible to say,
i.e. photos of each extension socket and the master socket are needed.

In theory the extensions could be run off of the extension socket once it has placed in the location of the old socket.

To be honest, this is getting deeper into the mire and leaning more towards you should have just got a data extension installed when you had FTTC installed.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Feb-13 13:03:51
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It's a good job he's an experienced installer smile
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Feb-13 15:36:25
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Here are photos of the wiring in my home http://s1308.beta.photobucket.com/user/Jamie_Danjoux...

Edited by deleted (Tue 26-Feb-13 16:44:14)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Feb-13 16:29:21
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Distance is everything with VDSL, an extra 20 m of telephone wiring can mean a couple of Meg lost.

.. or more depending on your connection. I gained about 5Mbps just by replacing the standard flat cable that came with the modem with screened Cat5. smile

This is often due to a reflection loss rather than a wire loss.

As a percentage of total loop length, the flat cable between the modem and the linebox is so short that signal attenuation due to losses in the wire itself is minimal.

However, the flat cable is poorly matched in terms of its impedance to the twisted pairs in the rest of the loop. That impedance mismatch causes much of the signal to reflect back to the modem transceiver/s from the junction of the two cable types. And that reflection is what impairs the broadband performance. It causes frequency-specific notches that ultimately reduce bit depth on the affected subcarriers.

That is reportedly how most bandwidth is lost to consumer wiring: as reflection losses. Compounded by star wiring topologies, which serve as reflective bridge taps, etc.. (See Walter Y Chen, Home Networking Basis)

cheers, a

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(deleted) Tue 26-Feb-13 17:50:15
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In reply to a post by JamieDanjoux:
Here are photos of the wiring in my home http://s1308.beta.photobucket.com/user/Jamie_Danjoux...


The above quote contains the pics
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(staff) Tue 26-Feb-13 17:54:34
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Pictures of the outside of the socket is like trying to say whether a car will pass its MOT when it is parked 100m away.

People need to see the wiring in each of the sockets and you are only showing three extensions when you say you have four, and the master has to junction boxes around it, and what looks like at least 6 bits of cable

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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