I have discovered that the junction box on the left has no wires connected so I have stripped that out as the cable was chopped off at the other end. The junction at the top is filled with cables connected to a gel crimp theres about 4 of them. I can upload a pic?

I ve added another image, the junction box seems to have gel crimps

Here is the route of the wiring.

Exchange - Huawei FTTC cab - Drop wire.

Drop wire - to side of home.

side of home to the BT junction box (the white box) - The line is gel crimped to the master socket. The original master socket has been removed years ago and only got it refitted again 13 months ago.

Is it possible to remove gel crimps and gel crimp the line to my ext socket then replace my ext socket with the VDSL master socket.

P.S My master socket is unscrewable (Its over tightened) can you help me on how to remove screws?

J

Can't see enough as unable to zoom the picture with the device I am using so over to someone else.

As for the screws - time to search DIY stores for screw removers.

Personally now is the time to get an expert in to actually decipher your wiring and the various problems

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Personally now is the time to get an expert in to actually decipher your wiring and the various problems

Exactly ... It is a mess and a "cowboy" has been involved at some time.

Managed to unscrew it now! If I move the master socket to the selected location, will the telephone (where the current master socket is) still work?

Depends on what you do with the wiring and what that spiders web near the master is really doing

Looking at pictures I can see it being possible but would need to be onsite to trace wiring and verify everything before commiting.

If wiring is how I think it is the original Openreach engineer has removed an old junction box that was managing a star configuration and used to gel crimps to extend this to the A/B points on the master socket, and then another wire leaves the new master which is gel crimped to the extension.

No evidence of the four extensions that you meantioned in passing earlier, and where and how these fit into the picture is a big unknown.

In the face of the confusion, why not run a data extension from the VDSL socket of the existing master socket to exactly where you want it. A kit like http://www.clarity.it/xcart/product.php?productid=16139 would give you the bits to do that

Edited by MrSaffron (Wed 27-Feb-13 17:17:54)

Well I want to divert line to socket upsatirs but I want phone not data to stay where it is (current master) Also I don't mind that the phone line doesn't go to new master and it stays where it is. Also what about the ext sockets willl they be cut off if i move the master socket?

Can you turn an extension socket into a master socket? I am a very experienced installer but can't find anywhere on the net on how to do this? I can't use the extension socket due to being on fibre.

Surely if you are a very experienced installer you will know what to do. And you will also know that interfering with the wiring before the master is an offence and you should not be touching the BT Network.

At present you have a mess, and if you do not know what to do or how to do it then you will probably end up with an even worse mess.

Pay someone that actually knows to do it for you.

Cannot answer about the other extensions as no evidence of them being wired to anything at present.

Suspect another star wire junction box, which would cause problems with the original plan.