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(deleted) Thu 25-Apr-13 15:45:22
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
It'll be interesting to see what they mean by "speed enabling" rather than "speed boosting", both in a strategic sense and a technical sense.

I suspect they're caught between
- Not wanting to "do an ADSL 2+" by marketing a headline speed that no-one can get
- Wanting to outdo Virgin on headline speed anyway
- Wanting to increase the range of mid-level decent speeds, so it costs less to get the network deployed.
- Wanting to get vectoring deployed before the take-up gets too high, so it doesn't annoy too many current subscribers who see speed drops in the interim
- Wanting to hold off the need for FTTP deployment as long as possible. That is, to hold off the BT-funded FTTP but allow the user-funded FTTPoD to run free.

If it turns out to be plausible to increase range of those distant by refusing to increase the headline speed of those closer, then I too hope they choose it.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 25-Apr-13 15:50:41
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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another possibility is that if ECI cabs are skipped, its probably better not raise headline speeds because then people may ask why only some FTTC areas have higher speeds.(at probable same price).

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Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 25-Apr-13 15:50:52)

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(deleted) Thu 25-Apr-13 16:15:32
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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And yet...

BT's hopes, as of last year, included vectoring being a technology that brought 100Mbps+ to a significantly greater proportion of the population.

Take a look at page 8 of this fibre product surgery, from Jan 2012. I'm sure I've seen the same graph in financial slides too.

Most of that blue chunk was destined to come from vectored FTTC, not from FTTP.

The text also mentions the potential of 50% of properties having 100Mbps+ due to vectoring

I wonder if they still have the same hopes.


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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 25-Apr-13 17:17:52
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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that url doesnt work.

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(deleted) Thu 25-Apr-13 17:23:21
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
that url doesnt work.
Works for me
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 25-Apr-13 17:26:12
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
that url doesnt work.
Works for me



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(sensei) Thu 25-Apr-13 17:38:44
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
that url doesnt work.
It's to a pdf. Could that be an issue for you?

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(deleted) Thu 25-Apr-13 17:50:59
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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Still working here.

Google "bt wholesale fibre surgery slides" and look for the 26th January. You can see both PDF and PPT formats.
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(deleted) Thu 25-Apr-13 17:54:07
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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In reply to a post by WWWombat:
Most of that blue chunk was destined to come from vectored FTTC, not from FTTP.

The text also mentions the potential of 50% of properties having 100Mbps+ due to vectoring

I wonder if they still have the same hopes.


A question that is made more interesting by BT having decided to ignore their previous FTTP targets, and revert back to installing FTTC instead.
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(deleted) Thu 25-Apr-13 18:14:33
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Re: Vectoring; should I care? (ELI5)


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Presumably so they can spend money competing against Sky TV.

This is interesting
Impact on backhaul networks is still real but starting to stabilise at ~200Kbit/s per EU
Wonder how long that will last, after they introduce IPTV?
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