Hi there whilst BT are not coming in the very near future 4G is coming.

EE already offer it in London however the usage caps are low. Later this year 3 are coming into the game and they have promised no price increases. This means 3 are likely to offer all you can eat 4g at a reasonable price.

Who knows voda / o2 might even offer something unlimited. I think eventually EE will offer unlimited too as T-mobile already manages this quite successfully.

This is probably the best route for now. Get a 4G data package and plug it into a router so it's wirelessly broadcasted.

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

Hi there whilst BT are not coming in the very near future 4G is coming.

In a word, you jest.

In an ideal world not ruled by physics maybe. First there is the problem of the many sharing limited bandwidth unless you're suggesting that the mobile companies are going to provide cells every few metres around the development. Then there's usage. Personally I'm a heavy user and 4G is never likely to get close to meeting my needs, it's more for those browsing on the bus or tube. Not being a gamer I've no knowledge as to how well 4G would meet their needs whereas a fixed line solution suits them well. 4G is already starting to destroy our freeview signal here and I dread to think what it would be like if all the properties on the development were trying use 4G for their net access.

I'm from London and due to the transmitters being largely quite closeby I've seen no degradation of freeview.
With regards to the areas affected you can get a free filter from at800.

4G is likely to meet the needs of individuals not an entire area. This is assuming we have a decent offering in terms of unlimited etc.

I live very close to a university and I still see 13Mbps via 3G. 4G can certainly meet the needs of the odd individual. The issue is if everybody around you tries to use it as a fixed broadband solution which is unlikely unless you encourage them.

I've seen 4G offering speedtests of 30Mbps in central london. When I had EE (I switched back to T-mobile as I wasn't needing 4g) I got 35Mbps at kings cross station.

If your 4g coverage is high it can be a good individual solution but not one for everybody.

Sadly Three have limited 4g spectrum and we don't know the exact packages on offer just yet. I know a fair few people who use their 3G Three connection as their sole broadband. Some of them are seeing speeds of around 20Mbps already. 4G is likely to make that even better. I have a friend who pulls over 100Gb monthly on 3 currently and then 4 other members of his household use it too (so the usage will be even higher)!

Edited by ukhardy07 (Fri 19-Jul-13 02:05:42)

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

When has the Government said their should be NGA for everyone?

Ask the guy from UK Broadband

Sorry, I'll get my coat.

Yes, surely 4G isn't the answer for the OP.

Unless you're in a very large town or a city, 4G is non-existent and where I live, in the centre of a town which has a population of 10,000, you can only get plain GPRS, which is obviously almost completely useless now.

Point being that even 3G coverage for out-of-city locations is well off what adverts from, say, the launch of Three in the UK would have you believe, with people just strolling around streaming Match Of The Day in HD at their leisure.

When I'm in the right place, e.g. Colchester town centre, HSPA+ gives me a faster connection on my mobile than my 18Mb ADSL2+ landline net service.

So, back to the topic, if this is the state of 3G more than halfway through 2013, I don't think anyone should count on 4G for their permanent/sole net connection any time soon, unless maybe they live in a penthouse at the top of The Shard.

Edited by deleted (Fri 19-Jul-13 23:30:12)

wireless is shared. 20 MHz for an operator (at best) * 5 Bits/Hz (at best) = 100 Mbits/s for everyone in range of that base station on that operator.

Contention City, Arizona.

Even FTTC is a dedicated 30 Mbits/s capacity per user (on the <80M service).

They live in central london hence my suggestion.

I agree 3g is non existent largely out of cities on o2 and vodafone.
EE t mobile and orange have quite substantial 3g coverage even in remote areas.

It's not a solution for the whole area nonetheless. So probably not a good suggestion from me.

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

They live in central london hence my suggestion....

...So probably not a good suggestion from me.

And possibly an overly pessimistic post from me, so we'll call it even

In reply to a post by gazzyk1ns:

Unless you're in a very large town or a city, 4G is non-existent and where I live, in the centre of a town which has a population of 10,000, you can only get plain GPRS, which is obviously almost completely useless now.

If its important to you, I hope you've tried all the networks.

So what speeds to the residents get now?

How will you fund your project if not all residents are willing to sign up?

I would suggest that you try and get some sort of commitment from other residents so as to measure the level of interest. Getting enough interest may well be the hardest part.

With regard to Hyperoptic, if they go broke you can probably find some one else to run the network, maybe more cheaply as the cables will be there.