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Still overpriced IMO. A £10 router with a free OS on it can do all that, and is just as robust, if not more so. All this enterprise branded stuff is just hogwash. I get more disconnects and reboots on Cisco 2602's than on a £5 router running an alpha version of Openwrt.

I suspect the problem is that Cisco have hardly any (percentage terms) of people using their kit on ADSL services - as generally Cisco kit is used to support a lot of users where ADSL service wouldn't have sufficient capacity.

We use Cisco kit for just about everything at work (phones etc.). Trying to do any work in our new office on a 3.5Mbps down/1 Mbps up backup ADSL line for two weeks while waiting for Openreach to get our fibre connection up and running was quite interesting.

Still it's all good now with a nice 100/100 connection.

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Maybe the all-in-ones will support baby-jumbo frames over PPPoE properly, so those of us on the WBC backhaul network can get 1500byte MTU. I suspect Sky uses MPoA to solve this (and give routers less work to do).

The Cisco is set to a 1500byte MTU - the Draytek won't set to anything above 1492.

What's all the fuss about over an additional 8 bytes of MTU? Do you really think you'll notice a 0.5% difference?

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I wonder if Juniper do any VDSL kit, that would be nice (we are a Juniper shop at work). I can't see the benefits over my 3 month+ uptime Asus RT-N66U with Openreach Huawei HG modem.

The SRX110 Services Gateway seems to fit trhe bill

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I wonder how well BT would fare if it tried to take action for breaching Ts&Cs againsst a BT Infinity customer who purchased this router from BT and used it to replace the Openreach modem.

That could certainly be interesting

But I don't think I'd want one- nearly £340 for:

Four 10/100 Mbps fast Ethernet-managed switch ports

Pull the other one

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But I don't think I'd want one- nearly £340 for:

Four 10/100 Mbps fast Ethernet-managed switch ports

Pull the other one

That's not exactly a problem as the line it's on won't go above 35Mbps and there's no likelihood of FTTPod at an economic price. There's also a dedica\ted hardware firewall with gigabit ports inside the router that handles all NAT and security.

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That's not exactly a problem as the line it's on won't go above 35Mbps and there's no likelihood of FTTPod at an economic price.

I wasn't thinking of the internet connection but about transfers within the LAN.

There's also a dedica\ted hardware firewall with gigabit ports inside the router that handles all NAT and security.

Not sure what you mean by that- the spec tab on your link only refers to the four 10/100 LAN ports?

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Not sure what you mean by that- the spec tab on your link only refers to the four 10/100 LAN ports?

The router is connected to another box that does the firewalling and LAN and this has gigabit.

Don't confuse home world "all in one box" stuff with corporate stuff

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In reply to a post by jchamier:

I wonder if Juniper do any VDSL kit, that would be nice (we are a Juniper shop at work). I can't see the benefits over my 3 month+ uptime Asus RT-N66U with Openreach Huawei HG modem.

The SRX110 Services Gateway seems to fit trhe bill

Ha, excellent! Now to save up for one! (I've just been playing with our new SRX 210 and 220's).

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Don't confuse home world "all in one box" stuff with corporate stuff

I don't usually, but Sarah's phrase "inside the router" threw me a bit.

Thanks for the clarification