That's exactly what I was planning to do once the fibre was up & running. I've got a gigabit switch running upstairs that feeds all of the wired connections and I was planning on running an access point in the centre of the loft that should hopefully cover everything in one hit

Still toying with the thought of getting twice the speed for the same money with plusnet but really hate the idea of management lol

But it's all moot until OR pull their finger out and make my cab AO lol

Read this article about PN traffic management.

Check your address (not just the postcode) with this checker and see what the FTTC estimates are. Both lines matter. That might help you decide between Sky and Plusnet. I'd suggest either rather than BT Infinity or TalkTalk.

Do you want BT Sport?

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

Are you suggesting that he uses another router with the sr102?

A friend of mine has done just that, with a cheap dual band router with DHCP turned off, and the WiFi on the Sky hub turned off. TP-Link TD-W8980 was the one he bought (PCworld retail only £69 !)

Thanks for the interesting read, if anything that makes me more inclined to go with sky
I like the idea of QoS which is basically what they're doing, but I like to control it myself

I'll probably end up with a router that has good QoS controls

I can't use the checker yet to get my speeds as my cab still hasn't gone live, it should be within the next week if my BDUK is correct. So hopefully I'll be in as soon as it goes live, I'm only about 150m from the cab so hopefully it doesn't take too circuitous a route from the cab to the pole lol I'm about 15m from the pole so I'm hoping for l200m - 300m all in including the drop cable

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Check your address (not just the postcode) with this checker and see what the FTTC estimates are. Both lines matter. That might help you decide between Sky and Plusnet. I'd suggest either rather than BT Infinity or TalkTalk.

PN traffic management is interesting, but it shouldn't be needed with decent home routers. Perhaps the routers PN are supplying are too cheap. Why avoid BT infinity? The service is good and reliable, but support is apparently poor (not that I've ever called them in 20 months).

I might go PN for the only sensible choice for static IP, but still worried by reports the service can be slower than others occasionally.

Very few people are up to changing the default usernames and passwords on routers. No chance of setting up QoS.

Can you set downstream QoS anyway? I thought you could only set upstream.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Very few people are up to changing the default usernames and passwords on routers. No chance of setting up QoS.

Okay, but that brings up the question do most people max out their lines with multiple services? Maybe in homes with teenagers, and only slowish ADSL I would have thought? Lots of people do manage to configure port forwarding but there are a lot of websites to help. If this packet shaping was really needed then perhaps there would be similar sites?

I wonder if its a plusnet sales tool, probably works very well, but is it really essential ?

Can you set downstream QoS anyway? I thought you could only set upstream.

Essentially you're throttling a protocol (tcp/port), such as HTTP. Was quite common when people ran home webservers to stop one remote user downloading a file from stopping the connection owner from being unable to use the internet. My Draytek in 2006 could do it, so I'd assume the Asus models or anything with a Linux kernel can.

Now that virtual hosting and VPSes are so cheap, hardly anyone bothers web hosting at home, and its probably a good thing. Game hosting is much more likely.

I'm way beyond being able to change default usernams and passwords lol, my current setup has port forwarding and multiple SSID etc so hopefully I'll manage QoS. But I take your point that most won't

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Essentially you're throttling a protocol (tcp/port), such as HTTP. Was quite common when people ran home webservers to stop one remote user downloading a file from stopping the connection owner from being unable to use the internet. My Draytek in 2006 could do it, so I'd assume the Asus models or anything with a Linux kernel can.

Quite. Upstream. Not downstream.

Port forwarding on the downstream is nothing to do with QoS to you from the ISP side of the MSAN.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Quite. Upstream. Not downstream.

Port forwarding on the downstream is nothing to do with QoS to you from the ISP side of the MSAN.

True

Its just not been needed, which is why I wondered if its just a nice marketing statement

If you've got a beefy router (ie, something like a Juniper SRX-220, or Cisco equiv) or a Linux server, then you can do anything you like to incoming (ie downstream) packets.

You can re-prioritise them, and thus choose Netflix is slower than tesco.com web traffic, if you really needed to.

Edited by jchamier (Sun 18-May-14 10:59:37)