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Standard User IamQ
(experienced) Wed 25-Jun-14 20:36:43
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Re: FTTP vs FTTPoD?


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There is the issue of what you connect in terms of router and buying one that supports high levels of throughput, but the retail ISP should have recommendations on that.

GigE ports are now standard on all current Draytek routers I gather now, Cisco & the like all do GigE interfaces if you have the pennies in your pocket.

Not aware of any D-Links or Net Gears yet (and not checked) but once the demand is there for the higher speed WAN interfaces it wont take long, and wont cost much.
Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 25-Jun-14 20:44:34
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Sure about that?

Seems there was a purely coincidental burst of new availability in areas covered by Superconnected Cities vouchers and there has been no progress since.
i think it must depend on what engineers are available. Brackley was in the first tranche of exchanges to offer FTTPoD and Brackley is not a city wink

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 25-Jun-14 20:59:36
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Sadly GigE ports do not guarantee GigE speeds, check out smallnetbuilder.com for examples.
Technology is not foolproof and especially so at high performance levels.
Research is key.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 25-Jun-14 23:13:33
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i think it must depend on what engineers are available. Brackley was in the first tranche of exchanges to offer FTTPoD and Brackley is not a city wink


Not sure what that has to do with the bunch of previously unannounced exchanges in SCC areas that went live earlier this year with silence since and no announcement of more for months but good to know I guess.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 25-Jun-14 23:18:15
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Has often grown each quarter in the past, but there is no guarantee that more exchanges will get added every quarter.

Does that sound better?


Ah okay that goes with what I am seeing. Thought you were aware of something I wasn't.

To be quite honest I think Openreach, with the price increases and everything else, have pretty much given up on FTTPoD and clearly native FTTP too. It wasn't a massive seller before the huge price increase and there's perilously little point in releasing it where subsidies are not available given it has a pricing structure devoted to maximising use of available subsidy rather than being competitive.

Steve Jones must be a depressed if not bored man.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 29-Jun-14 22:03:18
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Just something also to note - ignoring the install costs FTTP on demand costs everyone who uses BT's Wholesale arm 168GBP/month before any usage, or any of their own support, admin, billing, etc, etc, costs.

The same 330Mb/30Mb product not on-demand is a rather less painful 63.60GBP.

Guess they use gold plated photons for the on demand product.
Standard User Storm_Force
(learned) Fri 04-Jul-14 21:33:10
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My sister moved house in Exeter Devon, they currently have no BT line but a check using the BT address check reveals no FTTC just up to 330mb FTTP! I had a look at the BT pole outside and yes I can see the fibre manifold on the pole.

How do the go about ordering it? ie to get the fastest speed. Will they need to stick with BT?
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(staff) Fri 04-Jul-14 21:37:33
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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 04-Jul-14 22:02:08
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As MrSaffron says, except AIUI Plusnet still accept customers onto their ongoing FTTP trials.

Which could be a cheap way in as I think it's only open to existing customers, but joining on the nice cheap ADSL2+ product then getting onto the trial appears to work. That would need specific confirmation from a Digital Care rep on these forums. From my experience and what I see, triallists of Plusnet products continue to pay only for their original service until they have to decide between staying on the "live" product or reverting.

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Standard User Rastus
(committed) Sat 05-Jul-14 09:53:50
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... . From my experience and what I see, triallists of Plusnet products continue to pay only for their original service until they have to decide between staying on the "live" product or reverting.


I don't think that's the case now. AIUI new applicants to the FTTP 'trial' pay the same price as the equivalent FTTC 'upto' service, with only a limited number of speed options presently available. i.e. 80/20 (and probably 40/20 which has recently been offered on FTTC).

Then there's the differential of whether or not you have your line rental with PlusNet, £2.50pm reduction if you have.

Presently I believe the prices are £22.49pm and £17.49pm respectively for the speed examples given above if you don't have your line rental via PlusNet, £2.50 less with PN line rental.

Edit: Both of the account types above are 'Unlimited'.

Edited by Rastus (Sat 05-Jul-14 09:56:38)

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