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Standard User Piscatorian
(newbie) Thu 20-Aug-15 16:37:53
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Re: FTTC install gone wrong!


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Description sounds exactly like CW1308 cable


Hi Mr Saffron,

Thank you for the links.
I've looked at the cable dimensions on the run it direct site and I'd say that the cable I have is thicker - Mine measures 5mm in diameter!

Heres some photos of the cable and master socket.

Phone cable

Master socket 1

Master socket 2
Standard User Piscatorian
(newbie) Thu 20-Aug-15 16:48:27
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Re: FTTC install gone wrong!


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Where did you originally plan/hope for the modem to be, the router to be, and how would they connect?

Simple options include just using Cat5 as a 'modem cable' run loose from the master socket, and keep the modem and router where the switch etc is. If you want the router in the study, or even router and modem, and are happy with 100 Mbit ethernet between the study and lounge then you can use a splitter/combiner that effectively turns one Cat5 cable into two.


When I had ADSL my modem/router (Billion 7800n) sat on my desk in the study and thats where I've always planned forit to be as its a fairly central room in the house.
Now I have a modem to contend with I dont really have the desk space for it so ideally its best left on the bookcase in the lounge - Doing it that way leaves me desk space for the router.
Now if at some stage further down the line I get a combined VDSL Modem, would I still be able to use it in the study?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 20-Aug-15 17:42:16
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Re: FTTC install gone wrong!


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HG612 and ECI something are the two modems Openreach supply. Just look on the base smile.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 20-Aug-15 17:46:46
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Re: FTTC install gone wrong!


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Uh oh!

Has Master socket 2 always been there (in the study?) and where Master socket 1 is was an ordinary socket? If so things get even simpler! Maybe almost a piece of cake! Though it's a bit puzzling how he has installed the new one.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57970/13958kbps @ 600m. - BQM

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 20-Aug-15 17:50:02)

Standard User Piscatorian
(newbie) Thu 20-Aug-15 17:54:03
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HG612 and ECI something are the two modems Openreach supply. Just look on the base smile.

My modem is made by ECI Telecom.
Standard User Piscatorian
(newbie) Thu 20-Aug-15 17:56:36
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Uh oh!

Has Master socket 2 always been there (in the study?) and where Master socket 1 is was an ordinary socket? If so things get even simpler! Maybe almost a piece of cake! Though it's a bit puzzling how he has installed the new one.


Sorry I've misslead you with the photo titles.
The photos are all of the same socket, should have read photo 1 and photo 2.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 20-Aug-15 19:09:38
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Something very odd there then.

It looks as if there is an unfiltered extension plus a filtered one. How many extensions are there?

There's a fair chance that for now, as things could be better, if you take the modem and router up to the study plus a dangly filter if you haven't got a filtered faceplate on it already, everything will work. Possibly a little slower than at the moment but shouldn't be dramatic. Just take the modem first and see if it gets DSL. If it does take the router up and plug it in.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57970/13958kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User Piscatorian
(newbie) Thu 20-Aug-15 20:30:36
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Something very odd there then.

It looks as if there is an unfiltered extension plus a filtered one. How many extensions are there?

There's a fair chance that for now, as things could be better, if you take the modem and router up to the study plus a dangly filter if you haven't got a filtered faceplate on it already, everything will work. Possibly a little slower than at the moment but shouldn't be dramatic. Just take the modem first and see if it gets DSL. If it does take the router up and plug it in.


Not sure I follow, both of those photos are of the same socket (the Master).
I'm reluctant to try moving it because last week I asked my ISP about trying to connect up from the extension in the study and they said I should avoid that because if could cause a reset issue at the cabinet?
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(deleted) Thu 20-Aug-15 20:55:23
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Everything looks in order with your wiring. Don't move your modem upstairs with your current setup whatever you do - with the MK3 plate in place the modem should only be plugged where it is now.

I think you should decide on a long-term setup and stick to it. Your wiring looks fine and I'm sure the engineer would have used it to make the study the master socket. For yourself, probably best to make the study socket a 'modem socket' and the existing wiring to it a 'modem cable' and keep the modem upstairs only. Simply move the blue wires currently terminated at the faceplate to the two terminals on the MK3 plate (you should cut off the ends of the wire and terminate afresh with an IDC tool) and swap the phone socket in the study for a RJ11 socket.

You should note some off-peak speed tests and ping tests before, then after, and then a while after, to monitor any adverse impact. If you want to buy a HG612 modem these can be easily unlocked in 3 mins and you can see the line stats. Or if you want a VDSL modem/router you could buy that first.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 20-Aug-15 20:59:59
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What are the wires from the back of the VDSL filter if they aren't to an unfiltered extension?

I sincerely hope they don't go round the edge to the NTE5A. But the orange wire is odd - that's why I said there was something strange.

Or is there a hole through to the NTE5A and that has been used to wire back to the study, instead of looping through the slot due to insufficient length? In which case plugging the modem in at the extension won't do any harm, it just won't work smile.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57970/13958kbps @ 600m. - BQM

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 20-Aug-15 21:06:30)

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